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From: Zootal on 9 Oct 2009 18:11 >>At least Vista gives you the option of using the "classic" interface. >>Windows 7 doesn't. > > Yes it (Win7) does. Right-click background--> Personalize --> Windows > Classic That is not the "classic" interface wtr the start button and task bar. Microsoft got it right in 1995 when Windows95 came out. Now, 15 years later, for reasons only known to Microsoft, they have decided that what we worked for 15 years is now obsolete and that we don't need this anymore. At least Vista had a true classic mode. Win7 can call it what they want - it isn't it, and it's not there. KDE copies this same boxed menu style. It is a very wrong way road they followed when they decided to follow after Microsoft.
From: Charles Collette on 18 Oct 2009 20:50 On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:05:16 -0700, "Zootal" <usenet(a)spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote: <--snip --> >At least Vista gives you the option of using the "classic" interface. >Windows 7 doesn't. And neither does KDE 4 (at least not that I'm aware of), >which is why I'm using neither Win7 nor KDE4... > It is also possible in KDE 4 to have the KDE 3 look and feel. Don't remember what I did to get it, but it wasn't hard to do. > > >I hope I'm not beating a dead dog.The "old" style interface expands programs >upwards and outwards in a hierarchal expanding format, using as much of the >screen as it can to display as much stuff as it can. This makes it easy to >drill upwards and outwards and find your stuff quickly, especially if you >have a lot of items, or if you are not quite sure where to find what you are >looking for. The "new" style confines it all to a small box, making it >difficult to navigate through the menus to find your stuff, especially if >you have a lot of items or are not sure where you are going. Microsoft made >a big mistake changing to this style, evidenced by all of the negative >feedback they are receiving about this change (typical Microsoft "lets us >think for you and tell you what you really want" attitude). It looks >suspiciously like the KDE4 team made the new gui work just like Windows. Did >they do this because it is what Windows is doing, or did they make it up on >their own? I strongly suspect the former. IMNSHO, this is a very wrong way >street for anything-Linux to be going down. The last thing I need is >something that works like Windows... > > > >/soapbox >
From: Zootal on 18 Oct 2009 23:15 "Charles Collette" <collette(a)no-spam-xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:ru8nd51njfff7tefaaahkbus7h813pt8ne(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:05:16 -0700, "Zootal" > <usenet(a)spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote: > > <--snip --> >>At least Vista gives you the option of using the "classic" interface. >>Windows 7 doesn't. And neither does KDE 4 (at least not that I'm aware >>of), >>which is why I'm using neither Win7 nor KDE4... >> > It is also possible in KDE 4 to have the KDE 3 look and feel. Don't > remember what I did to get it, but it wasn't hard to do. You can get it for the desktop, IIRC, but not for the KDE equivalent of the Start button where the menu pops up showing you available programs. That seems to be stuck in Windows 7 mode.
From: Martin Schmitz on 19 Oct 2009 10:31 Zootal wrote: > You can get it for the desktop, IIRC, but not for the KDE equivalent > of the Start button where the menu pops up showing you available > programs. That seems to be stuck in Windows 7 mode. Unlock widgets, then right click on the menu symbol. Martin
From: john on 23 Oct 2009 11:30
On Oct 6, 5:38 pm, notbob <not...(a)nothome.com> wrote: > On 2009-10-06, Rich Grise <richgr...(a)example.net> wrote: > > > So, what would Slack 13 give me that Slack 11. doesn't have, besides the > > headaches of IPV6 and that whole new kernel? > > mplayer! > > It's all there. Add the browser plug-in and you can watch almost > anything. I was shocked to see wmv files play as easily as mpg and > avi files with nary a finger lifted to cli a config file. I can even > stream current movies where available. No muss, no fuss, it works, I > watch. IMO, it is major. On the downside, there's kde4.2, which > is worse than herniated pond scum. > > nb The solution to KDE4 is called XFCE. It approximates KDE 3.5 in look, feel and functionality. The KDE programs are all available. The wicked witch is dead, at least on this machine. Some adjustments are necessary. You need to substitute konsole for the inferior Terminal program for example. Kmail has a wierd look and feel. But it doesn't crash as often. With Slack 13 you get Qt4 which is needed to compile e.g. recent versions of Scribus. That program is important to me. And it has a 64 bit option. John Culleton |