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From: Newberry on 23 Mar 2010 01:29 On Mar 22, 6:44 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> writes: > > > "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> writes: > > >>> Although I don't necessarily agree with the idea of killfiling someone > >>> merely because one disagrees with them, Clarke is only doing the > >>> same thing to Hughes that Daryl McCullough, another poster in this > >>> thread, has done to me. And Clarke has killfiled Hughes for the exact > >>> same reason that McCullough has killfiled me -- because both Hughes > >>> and I have repeatedly posted statements with which Clarke and > >>> McCullough, respectively, disagree. The so-called "cranks" and the > >>> standard theorists have more in common with each other than either > >>> would like to admit. > > > Two points I failed to make: First, I don't see why you think Clarke > > is a crank. > > Actually, I should also say that Newberry is not a crank -- at least > not by the standards of sci.math. He's fairly passionate about > replacing FOL with an alternative, which is certainly crank*ish*, but > he's perfectly coherent and relatively competent. (I'm not sure he > has the knowledge necessary to complete his project, but he's still > relatively knowledgeable about the subject.) I know enough to cause a lot of damage. > Compare his writings to AP, James S. Harris, Meuckenheim. Newberry is > not in the same league. > > -- > Jesse F. Hughes > > "Had you told it like it was, it wouldn't be like it is." > -- Albert King
From: Aatu Koskensilta on 23 Mar 2010 05:31 Transfer Principle <lwalke3(a)lausd.net> writes: > Aatu writes that he prefers educated guesses to random "evidence." I > wonder what educated guess Aatu himself would give as the proportion > of physicists who believe that 0.999...=1. The overwhelming majority of physicists blithely accept all elementary mathematical results they're familiar with. -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta(a)uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechan kann, dar�ber muss man schweigen" - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
From: Aatu Koskensilta on 23 Mar 2010 05:42 Nam Nguyen <namducnguyen(a)shaw.ca> writes: > Is G(T), to you, a formula written in L(T) or in the language of > arithmetic [i.e. L(PA)]? To me? Surely it's up to you to explain your notation. -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta(a)uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechan kann, dar�ber muss man schweigen" - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
From: Aatu Koskensilta on 23 Mar 2010 05:43 Newberry <newberryxy(a)gmail.com> writes: > I know enough to cause a lot of damage. What sort of damage is this? -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta(a)uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechan kann, dar�ber muss man schweigen" - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 23 Mar 2010 07:39
Newberry <newberryxy(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Mar 22, 6:44 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> writes: >> >> > "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> writes: >> >> >>> Although I don't necessarily agree with the idea of killfiling someone >> >>> merely because one disagrees with them, Clarke is only doing the >> >>> same thing to Hughes that Daryl McCullough, another poster in this >> >>> thread, has done to me. And Clarke has killfiled Hughes for the exact >> >>> same reason that McCullough has killfiled me -- because both Hughes >> >>> and I have repeatedly posted statements with which Clarke and >> >>> McCullough, respectively, disagree. The so-called "cranks" and the >> >>> standard theorists have more in common with each other than either >> >>> would like to admit. >> >> > Two points I failed to make: First, I don't see why you think Clarke >> > is a crank. >> >> Actually, I should also say that Newberry is not a crank -- at least >> not by the standards of sci.math. He's fairly passionate about >> replacing FOL with an alternative, which is certainly crank*ish*, but >> he's perfectly coherent and relatively competent. (I'm not sure he >> has the knowledge necessary to complete his project, but he's still >> relatively knowledgeable about the subject.) > > I know enough to cause a lot of damage. I really wish you wouldn't say things like that when I'm claiming you're not a crank. It makes me look foolish. >> Compare his writings to AP, James S. Harris, Meuckenheim. Newberry is >> not in the same league. >> >> -- >> Jesse F. Hughes >> >> "Had you told it like it was, it wouldn't be like it is." >> -- Albert King > -- Jesse F. Hughes "[I]t's the damndest thing. There's something wrong with every last one of you, and I *never* thought that was a possibility. But now I feel it's the only reasonable conclusion." --JSH sees some sorta light |