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From: Neil Harrington on 16 Nov 2009 08:51 "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:gfydnSn9iLJFNJ3WnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message > news:2009111517220470933-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> >> Good guns always commanded high prices, as they do today. >> I know, my Kimber set me back $1200. >> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/G-Kimber-CDP-LAc.jpg >> >> > Nice looking autoloader....Is it 9 mm? I'll bet his answer is something close to "BITE YOUR TONGUE!!" :-)
From: Neil Harrington on 16 Nov 2009 09:10 "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:tvGdnSo6OsafMJ3WnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message > news:2009111517302780278-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> On 2009-11-15 17:24:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said: >> >>> >>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>> news:2009111517220470933-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>>> >>>> Good guns always commanded high prices, as they do today. >>>> I know, my Kimber set me back $1200. >>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/G-Kimber-CDP-LAc.jpg >>>> >>>> >>> Nice looking autoloader....Is it 9 mm? >> >> >> >> That sir is a good old 1911 design 45 ACP! Not some pissy 9mm. >> >> 9mm indeed?? !!!! >> >> For doublestack I have a Glock Model 23 in 40 S&W. >> >> -- > Well! - Sorrrrrry. I used to have a colt auto chambered in 9 mm. It was > the most reliable auto I ever had. You can't beat the good old 9mm, but you'll never convince .45 fanciers of that. They all have an abiding faith in those pumpkin rollers and are impervious to reason. ;-) I've owned a lot of .45s myself, but all my automatics now (apart from rimfires of course) are either 9mm or 9mm short, and my revolvers are all ..38/.357. It's just the ideal bore size. If God owned a handgun it would be in some 9mm/.38 caliber. > Generally, I preferred to carry revolvers, because I needed to know they > were going to go off if I ever had to fire them. Also, I wanted to walk > away with my empties still in the chamber and not lying someplace on the > ground. Yes, there are some obvious advantages to that. However, as far as reliability goes revolvers can have their problems too. I have a nice little S&W .38 hammerless on a light alloy frame, lovely thing to carry, almost brand new but it needs to see a gunsmith because it's stopped shooting -- something inside is cramped or binding. And I once had a brand-new Colt Agent that wouldn't work either. (Fortunately I'm only about 15 miles from the Colt factory, but it would've been bad luck if I'd just loaded that thing, put it away and some day had to use it in a hurry.)
From: Chris H on 16 Nov 2009 09:04 In message <c-CdnXIhyIZ0ypzWnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> writes > >"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message >news:vhLdubL4YBALFAxO(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk... >> In message <1e00g51800npsuco24380ml1u76jrfa7lf(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes >>>On 15 Nov 2009 06:48:13 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>> >>>>tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:03:59 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>>>><nospamclayton(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>US units are a shambolic mess, inconsistent with each other and almost >>>>>>completely irrational for dealing with the real world. >>>>>> >>>>>And yet we manage. >>>> >>>>Only just. >>>> >>>>>The world that each of us lives in is the "real world". We, who live >>>>>in the US, have no problem dealing with our system. >>>> >>>>"No problem"?? How many yards in a mile? How many feet in a quarter >>>>mile? How many teaspoons in a cup? If you don't know those offhand >>>>then you obviously have problems dealing with the system. >>> >>>If you have a legitimate example of how we have a problem with the >>>system, then state it. >> >> Interfacing with the rest of the world. > >What specifically is the problem? The US will have to use the International systems when talking to the rest of the world. This means doing lots of conversions, holding dual stock etc For example the whole world uses ISO A4 and the US uses US letter.... so when the US want to communicate with the rest of the world it has to use A4 and for internal use uses Letter. Dates are another problem the whole world bar the USA uses DD/MM/YY and the US uses MM/DD/YY it causes problems. It is no conscience to Americans who only interact with other Americans but as soon as Americans have to interact externally it will cause Americans problems, time and money. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Chris H on 16 Nov 2009 09:07 In message <2009111605502095335-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >On 2009-11-16 01:00:35 -0800, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> said: > >> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:25:50 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >>> news:DOydnQgIzaeZCmLXnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote in message >>>> news:t28uf5hjm52ous6p5d4sren7rv8k86agfo(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:03:47 -0500, "Neil Harrington" >>>>> <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>>>> Blame Napoleon. He laid down the law for France and at the >>>>>beginning >>>>> of the 20th century France dominated the automobile industry. >>>> But sans Napoleon. >>>> >>> Hummmm.....I wonder if France had stagecoaches before their >>>automobiles, and >>> if so, were they operated from the left or right sides? >> Where ever they were operated from, ever since Napoleon they drove >>on >> the right. > >Cite. You authority is in as much doubt as ours. I would be interested too... though it sounds plausible. Napoleon was into Standards and making France the Centre Of The World. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Chris H on 16 Nov 2009 09:21
In message <e4ydnf8Ny7zCwJzWnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> writes > >"Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >news:tvGdnSo6OsafMJ3WnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >> news:2009111517302780278-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>> On 2009-11-15 17:24:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said: >>> >>>> >>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>>> news:2009111517220470933-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> Well! - Sorrrrrry. I used to have a colt auto chambered in 9 mm. It was >> the most reliable auto I ever had. > >You can't beat the good old 9mm, but you'll never convince .45 fanciers of >that. They all have an abiding faith in those pumpkin rollers and are >impervious to reason. ;-) Having used both the answer is "it depends" on why you are carrying and pistol and the conditions. In the 70's when I used a pistol the .45 was a better choice for operational reasons for urban work. For battle field work a 9mm. >> Generally, I preferred to carry revolvers, because I needed to know they >> were going to go off if I ever had to fire them. Also, I wanted to walk >> away with my empties still in the chamber and not lying someplace on the >> ground. > >Yes, there are some obvious advantages to that. However, as far as >reliability goes revolvers can have their problems too. True and the problem is that when a revolver jams it is not easily fixable. At least 95% of auto jams are easily and quickly cleared. SO a revolver jam is usually fatal. This is why autos have a reputation for jamming, people cleared them and lived to tell the tail. When the revolver jammed no one knew. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |