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From: Joerg on 11 May 2010 21:16
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:24:14 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), Klaus Kragelund
>>> <klauskvik(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11 Maj, 09:47, robert seczkowski <jaschgaug...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On cypress site there is an "out of stock" notice on sales page.
>>>>> Does anyone know where to buy any of psoc3 chip?
>>>>> They released new devel. software however only eval kits are available.
>>>>>
>>>> As far as I know its only available in sample quantities. Production
>>>> ramps up Q4 2010
>>> It was supposed to ramp in 2Q '09, then 1Q '10. Hint to the wise; forget a
>>> design-in until they actually do provide production hardware.
>>
>> Anyone know why there's two different design suites, Designer for PSoC1,
>> and Creator for PSoC3 and PSoC5?
>
> They're completely different products. My bet is that PSoC1 goes away, sooner
> than later.


Not sure about them going away, those are inside a ton of products that
will be produced for a long time but might need the occasional feature
change. I hope the pricing on the 3 and 5 series comes in favorably.

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From: krw on 11 May 2010 21:27
On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:16:40 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:24:14 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), Klaus Kragelund
>>>> <klauskvik(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Maj, 09:47, robert seczkowski <jaschgaug...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On cypress site there is an "out of stock" notice on sales page.
>>>>>> Does anyone know where to buy any of psoc3 chip?
>>>>>> They released new devel. software however only eval kits are available.
>>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know its only available in sample quantities. Production
>>>>> ramps up Q4 2010
>>>> It was supposed to ramp in 2Q '09, then 1Q '10. Hint to the wise; forget a
>>>> design-in until they actually do provide production hardware.
>>>
>>> Anyone know why there's two different design suites, Designer for PSoC1,
>>> and Creator for PSoC3 and PSoC5?
>>
>> They're completely different products. My bet is that PSoC1 goes away, sooner
>> than later.
>
>
>Not sure about them going away, those are inside a ton of products that
>will be produced for a long time but might need the occasional feature
>change. I hope the pricing on the 3 and 5 series comes in favorably.

I meant for new designs. From what they told me, the PSoC3, in particular,
will be priced quite low; less than a buck for the small parts (in huge
quantities). They were talking about <$3 for our sorts of quantities
(5-10K/yr). I haven't talked with their FAEs in a while though. I really
needed a real DAC and ADC so they haven't been bothering me. ;-)

From: Joerg on 11 May 2010 21:35
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:16:40 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:24:14 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), Klaus Kragelund
>>>>> <klauskvik(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 Maj, 09:47, robert seczkowski <jaschgaug...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On cypress site there is an "out of stock" notice on sales page.
>>>>>>> Does anyone know where to buy any of psoc3 chip?
>>>>>>> They released new devel. software however only eval kits are available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I know its only available in sample quantities. Production
>>>>>> ramps up Q4 2010
>>>>> It was supposed to ramp in 2Q '09, then 1Q '10. Hint to the wise; forget a
>>>>> design-in until they actually do provide production hardware.
>>>> Anyone know why there's two different design suites, Designer for PSoC1,
>>>> and Creator for PSoC3 and PSoC5?
>>> They're completely different products. My bet is that PSoC1 goes away, sooner
>>> than later.
>>
>> Not sure about them going away, those are inside a ton of products that
>> will be produced for a long time but might need the occasional feature
>> change. I hope the pricing on the 3 and 5 series comes in favorably.
>
> I meant for new designs. From what they told me, the PSoC3, in particular,
> will be priced quite low; less than a buck for the small parts (in huge
> quantities). They were talking about <$3 for our sorts of quantities
> (5-10K/yr). I haven't talked with their FAEs in a while though. I really
> needed a real DAC and ADC so they haven't been bothering me. ;-)
>

$3 for 5-10k? That's almost three times of what a CY8C21223 goes for.

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From: krw on 11 May 2010 23:20
On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:35:38 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:16:40 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:24:14 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), Klaus Kragelund
>>>>>> <klauskvik(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11 Maj, 09:47, robert seczkowski <jaschgaug...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On cypress site there is an "out of stock" notice on sales page.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know where to buy any of psoc3 chip?
>>>>>>>> They released new devel. software however only eval kits are available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I know its only available in sample quantities. Production
>>>>>>> ramps up Q4 2010
>>>>>> It was supposed to ramp in 2Q '09, then 1Q '10. Hint to the wise; forget a
>>>>>> design-in until they actually do provide production hardware.
>>>>> Anyone know why there's two different design suites, Designer for PSoC1,
>>>>> and Creator for PSoC3 and PSoC5?
>>>> They're completely different products. My bet is that PSoC1 goes away, sooner
>>>> than later.
>>>
>>> Not sure about them going away, those are inside a ton of products that
>>> will be produced for a long time but might need the occasional feature
>>> change. I hope the pricing on the 3 and 5 series comes in favorably.
>>
>> I meant for new designs. From what they told me, the PSoC3, in particular,
>> will be priced quite low; less than a buck for the small parts (in huge
>> quantities). They were talking about <$3 for our sorts of quantities
>> (5-10K/yr). I haven't talked with their FAEs in a while though. I really
>> needed a real DAC and ADC so they haven't been bothering me. ;-)
>>
>
>$3 for 5-10k? That's almost three times of what a CY8C21223 goes for.

It wasn't a formal quote (it was well over a year ago, when they were still
interesting). It was more on the order of "this is what we're paying for the
function"...
From: Charlie E. on 12 May 2010 00:50
On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:16:40 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:24:14 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), Klaus Kragelund
>>>> <klauskvik(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Maj, 09:47, robert seczkowski <jaschgaug...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On cypress site there is an "out of stock" notice on sales page.
>>>>>> Does anyone know where to buy any of psoc3 chip?
>>>>>> They released new devel. software however only eval kits are available.
>>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know its only available in sample quantities. Production
>>>>> ramps up Q4 2010
>>>> It was supposed to ramp in 2Q '09, then 1Q '10. Hint to the wise; forget a
>>>> design-in until they actually do provide production hardware.
>>>
>>> Anyone know why there's two different design suites, Designer for PSoC1,
>>> and Creator for PSoC3 and PSoC5?
>>
>> They're completely different products. My bet is that PSoC1 goes away, sooner
>> than later.
>
>
>Not sure about them going away, those are inside a ton of products that
>will be produced for a long time but might need the occasional feature
>change. I hope the pricing on the 3 and 5 series comes in favorably.

Jeorge,
As I understand it, the PSOC1 doesn't have the designed in debug and
other tools that are now available for the PSOC3 and PSOC5, so they
can't use the new Creator program. The new chips also seem to have a
different set up for choosing pins and connections, so need the newer
development suite. Too bad. If the PSOC1's had used a more robust
debug interface, I probably would have used them instead of the PICs
for the color reader...

Charlie
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