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From: R. C. White on 24 May 2010 09:52 Hi, Kue2. You're welcome, of course. And stand by...I'm still somewhat lost, so you may need to answer my questions next. :^{ Neither bridge shows any viable NGs when I look for those with "64" anywhere in their names. In 127.0.0.1, there are NO such NGs. There are two listed in Localhost: Microsoft.fr-FR.windows95ntme64fr Msdn.en-US.netfx64bit Take your choice?? RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc(a)grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64) "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O3ZG#Ov#KHA.4316(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi Again RC > I got it thanks to your explanation > I did not realize I had to sign-in to both profiles to enable the bridge. > Actually I did not know I had one profile for "answers" bridge & > one for the "forums" bridge. > Very confusing, to say the least. > he forums link: > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/categories/ > The answers link: > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories > > I had to go to both & enable the NNTP bridge then it worked. > I now got all newgroups loaded in winmail. > > RC thank-you for your help, I was lost........ > > "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OD3PI#u#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hi RC >> The answers (Green) bridge I got running fine. >> It's the forums bridge (blue) that driving me ....... >> The error message it gives is as follows: >> In order to use Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge you must first log into >> forums & enable the "use NNTP Bridge" option in the My settings page. >> Trouble is it's already enabled. >> >> >> "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message >> news:#UFlDku#KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, Kue2. >>> >>> There are two NNTP Bridge versions (as of today): >>> Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge: >>> Service URL: >>> http://services.social.microsoft.com/ForumsServicePreview/ForumsService.svc >>> Version: 1.1.0.0 >>> NNTP IP Address: 127.0.0.1 >>> NNTP Port: 119 >>> >>> Microsoft Answers NNTP Bridge: >>> Service URL: >>> http://services.answers.microsoft.com/ForumsServicePreview/ForumsService.svc >>> Version: 1.0.0.171 >>> NNTP IP Address: 127.0.0.1 >>> NNTP Port: 120 >>> >>> Each has its own startup screen; Forums is blue, Answers is green. The >>> two windows appear identical except for the variables above. (No, I >>> don't know which is "the second one".) >>> >>> I've not yet figured out all the differences, including why we need two >>> bridges. And I've not yet figured out how to start either one >>> automatically. So far, I have pinned the two icons to my Taskbar (in >>> Win7). But I have to click one, then click its Start button, wait for a >>> second, then click Sign in on its next window, then - to keep its window >>> from being a continuing distraction - minimize the window to my >>> Notification Area. And then I have to click the other Taskbar icon and >>> go through the same routine a second time. Four clicks for each bridge, >>> before I click WLM to actually begin my News/Forums/Answers session. >>> :>( I sure hope someone at Microsoft is working on simplifying and >>> speeding up this process! >>> >>> RC >>> >>> "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:84D9465D-6D69-44C7-87B4-D79CA9802692(a)microsoft.com... >>>> Hi BullDawg >>>> what version is the "second one" of the bridge >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> "BullDawg" <eschol1948 AT Gmail Dot Com (No Spaces)@gmail.com> wrote >>>> in message news:ht9t9t$1gv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> Because not all are going to "Answers." Been running the first Bridge >>>>> since Dec and the second one for Answers since yesterday. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ______________ >>>>> BullDawg >>>>> Associate Expert >>>>> In God We Trust >>>>> ______________ >>>>> >>>>> "someone" <irvingr5(a)comcast.netnospam> wrote in message >>>>> news:77C9DA3B-B3E2-4ED1-96D1-1226729E031C(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>> Why can't you just download the MS Bridge? There are two Bridges >>>>>> now. One for the Answer forums. >>>
From: Robert Aldwinckle on 24 May 2010 19:39 "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message news:e7nUnh0#KHA.5224(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi, Kue2. > > You're welcome, of course. And stand by...I'm still somewhat lost, so you > may need to answer my questions next. :^{ > > Neither bridge shows any viable NGs when I look for those with "64" > anywhere in their names. In 127.0.0.1, there are NO such NGs. There are > two listed in Localhost: > Microsoft.fr-FR.windows95ntme64fr > Msdn.en-US.netfx64bit > > Take your choice?? There's one more. technet.en-US.officevolact. You have to have Descriptions enabled to see it but the actual instance of 64 only shows up when you do a list newsgroups in telnet E.g. here is a find "64" of such a capture: <find> ---------- OTHGROUPS.TXT Msdn.en-US.netfx64bit Need help making your .net applications (any language) w ork on 64-bit? Ask your questions here! ffice PLEX, Enterprise Licensing, Group Policy, and 64-bit Office Microsoft.fr-FR.windows95ntme64fr Discussions generales autour de Windows 95/NT/ME/64 Bits </find> Hmm... OIC. telnet captures long lines but wraps them onto multiple trace lines. Let's try this instead: <cmd_output OS="W7 X64"> C:\Users\Rob>findstr /n /i "officevol 64" othgroups.txt 1333:Msdn.en-US.netfx64bit Need help making your .net applications (any langua ge) w 1334:ork on 64-bit? Ask your questions here! 2182:Technet.en-US.officevolact Welcome to the Microsoft Office Volume Acti vatio 2190:ffice PLEX, Enterprise Licensing, Group Policy, and 64-bit Office 2650:http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/officevolact/threads. 3322:Microsoft.fr-FR.windows95ntme64fr Discussions generales autour de Win dows 3323:95/NT/ME/64 Bits </cmd_output> You can see how long the description for that OfficeVolAct newsgroup must be if it continues over 9 lines (2182-2190)! In fact it's so long that WLMail won't even show the whole thing even after I have maximized all fields by pressing Ctrl-NumPlus. BTW some product groups have tried to provide paragraphs of description in there which is invalid because they include more than 1 line for an entry. Fortunately WLMail overlooks such errors. FYI Robert ---
From: "BullDawg" eschol1948 AT Gmail Dot Com on 25 May 2010 09:13 Ver 1.0 for the Answers Bridge. Ver 1.1 for the "original" Forums Bridge. -- ______________ BullDawg Associate Expert In God We Trust ______________ "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:84D9465D-6D69-44C7-87B4-D79CA9802692(a)microsoft.com... > > Hi BullDawg > what version is the "second one" of the bridge > thanks > > "BullDawg" <eschol1948 AT Gmail Dot Com (No Spaces)@gmail.com> wrote in > message news:ht9t9t$1gv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Because not all are going to "Answers." Been running the first Bridge >> since Dec and the second one for Answers since yesterday. >> >> -- >> ______________ >> BullDawg >> Associate Expert >> In God We Trust >> ______________ >> >> "someone" <irvingr5(a)comcast.netnospam> wrote in message >> news:77C9DA3B-B3E2-4ED1-96D1-1226729E031C(a)microsoft.com... >>> Why can't you just download the MS Bridge? There are two Bridges now. >>> One for the Answer forums. >>> >>> "BullDawg" <eschol1948 AT Gmail Dot Com (No Spaces)@gmail.com> wrote in >>> message news:ht8i42$oc4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> I've changed all my microsoft.public groups over to eternal-september. >>>> Working fine. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ______________ >>>> BullDawg >>>> Associate Expert >>>> In God We Trust >>>> ______________ >>>> >>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld(a)nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:urD1AyZ%23KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> BullDawg wrote: >>>>>> Tried the freenews.netfront.net, but it is read only, no posting. >>>>>> However, >>>>>> news.eternal-september.org works fine. Just have to remember to make >>>>>> sure >>>>>> you have your username and id entered into the account settings. >>>>>> Speed >>>>>> is >>>>>> good, retention is only 120 days though. >>>>> >>>>> That (120 days) is 30 days more than the MS servers... >>>>> >>>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>
From: Kue2 on 25 May 2010 11:15 Hi RC I don't know if this is what you are asking: The bridges only allow you "To See" the web base forms in the NNTP format.(newsreaders). When loaded the bridges allow you to see & respond to the web based forums in the newsreader of your choice, providing it is compatible. The only way for us to see the Win 64 group using the bridges is if the powers to be place this group in the web base forums. From what I read to date, this is highly unlikely. Maybe the "powers to be" will create a group called "General Windows 64 Bit" and we could all hang out there. "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message news:e7nUnh0#KHA.5224(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi, Kue2. > > You're welcome, of course. And stand by...I'm still somewhat lost, so you > may need to answer my questions next. :^{ > > Neither bridge shows any viable NGs when I look for those with "64" > anywhere in their names. In 127.0.0.1, there are NO such NGs. There are > two listed in Localhost: > Microsoft.fr-FR.windows95ntme64fr > Msdn.en-US.netfx64bit > > Take your choice?? > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc(a)grandecom.net > Microsoft Windows MVP > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64) > > "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:O3ZG#Ov#KHA.4316(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hi Again RC >> I got it thanks to your explanation >> I did not realize I had to sign-in to both profiles to enable the bridge. >> Actually I did not know I had one profile for "answers" bridge & >> one for the "forums" bridge. >> Very confusing, to say the least. >> he forums link: >> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/categories/ >> The answers link: >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories >> >> I had to go to both & enable the NNTP bridge then it worked. >> I now got all newgroups loaded in winmail. >> >> RC thank-you for your help, I was lost........ >> >> "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OD3PI#u#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Hi RC >>> The answers (Green) bridge I got running fine. >>> It's the forums bridge (blue) that driving me ....... >>> The error message it gives is as follows: >>> In order to use Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge you must first log into >>> forums & enable the "use NNTP Bridge" option in the My settings page. >>> Trouble is it's already enabled. >>> >>> >>> "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message >>> news:#UFlDku#KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, Kue2. >>>> >>>> There are two NNTP Bridge versions (as of today): >>>> Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge: >>>> Service URL: >>>> http://services.social.microsoft.com/ForumsServicePreview/ForumsService.svc >>>> Version: 1.1.0.0 >>>> NNTP IP Address: 127.0.0.1 >>>> NNTP Port: 119 >>>> >>>> Microsoft Answers NNTP Bridge: >>>> Service URL: >>>> http://services.answers.microsoft.com/ForumsServicePreview/ForumsService.svc >>>> Version: 1.0.0.171 >>>> NNTP IP Address: 127.0.0.1 >>>> NNTP Port: 120 >>>> >>>> Each has its own startup screen; Forums is blue, Answers is green. The >>>> two windows appear identical except for the variables above. (No, I >>>> don't know which is "the second one".) >>>> >>>> I've not yet figured out all the differences, including why we need two >>>> bridges. And I've not yet figured out how to start either one >>>> automatically. So far, I have pinned the two icons to my Taskbar (in >>>> Win7). But I have to click one, then click its Start button, wait for a >>>> second, then click Sign in on its next window, then - to keep its >>>> window from being a continuing distraction - minimize the window to my >>>> Notification Area. And then I have to click the other Taskbar icon and >>>> go through the same routine a second time. Four clicks for each >>>> bridge, before I click WLM to actually begin my News/Forums/Answers >>>> session. :>( I sure hope someone at Microsoft is working on >>>> simplifying and speeding up this process! >>>> >>>> RC >>>> >>>> "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:84D9465D-6D69-44C7-87B4-D79CA9802692(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> Hi BullDawg >>>>> what version is the "second one" of the bridge >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> "BullDawg" <eschol1948 AT Gmail Dot Com (No Spaces)@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> in message news:ht9t9t$1gv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> Because not all are going to "Answers." Been running the first >>>>>> Bridge since Dec and the second one for Answers since yesterday. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ______________ >>>>>> BullDawg >>>>>> Associate Expert >>>>>> In God We Trust >>>>>> ______________ >>>>>> >>>>>> "someone" <irvingr5(a)comcast.netnospam> wrote in message >>>>>> news:77C9DA3B-B3E2-4ED1-96D1-1226729E031C(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>> Why can't you just download the MS Bridge? There are two Bridges >>>>>>> now. One for the Answer forums. >>>>
From: R. C. White on 25 May 2010 13:14
Hi, again, Hugh. As I just said in response to your e-mail: Hi, Hugh. Yes, I've been beta-testing "the" bridge (there was only one until recently) for over a year now and installed both the Answers bridge and the Forums bridge a couple of days ago. These final versions seem to be working, but it will take some time to get comfy with them. My main gripe now is that there is no equivalent to WLMail's Show Replies to My Messages. I've not yet figured out how to continue a conversation that I've already been involved in. In Newsgroups, all I have to do is press the scroll wheel on my mouse, which I've programmed to equal <Ctrl>+H, which toggles the "my messages" view on or off. But with the bridges, I haven't found any way to get that result. And, as I said, I haven't yet found any forums for any kind of "mail" or any dedicated to 64-bit computing. Have you? RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc(a)grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:59E62CF1-AAF0-49B9-AEFC-BD9FA7B9069B(a)microsoft.com... > Hi RC > I don't know if this is what you are asking: > The bridges only allow you "To See" the web base forms > in the NNTP format.(newsreaders). > When loaded the bridges allow you to see & respond to the web based forums > in the newsreader of your choice, providing it is compatible. > The only way for us to see the Win 64 group using the bridges is if the > powers to > be place this group in the web base forums. > From what I read to date, this is highly unlikely. > Maybe the "powers to be" will create a group called "General Windows 64 > Bit" > and we could all hang out there. > > > > "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message > news:e7nUnh0#KHA.5224(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi, Kue2. >> >> You're welcome, of course. And stand by...I'm still somewhat lost, so >> you may need to answer my questions next. :^{ >> >> Neither bridge shows any viable NGs when I look for those with "64" >> anywhere in their names. In 127.0.0.1, there are NO such NGs. There are >> two listed in Localhost: >> Microsoft.fr-FR.windows95ntme64fr >> Msdn.en-US.netfx64bit >> >> Take your choice?? >> >> RC >> >> "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:O3ZG#Ov#KHA.4316(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Hi Again RC >>> I got it thanks to your explanation >>> I did not realize I had to sign-in to both profiles to enable the >>> bridge. >>> Actually I did not know I had one profile for "answers" bridge & >>> one for the "forums" bridge. >>> Very confusing, to say the least. >>> he forums link: >>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/categories/ >>> The answers link: >>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories >>> >>> I had to go to both & enable the NNTP bridge then it worked. >>> I now got all newgroups loaded in winmail. >>> >>> RC thank-you for your help, I was lost........ >>> >>> "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OD3PI#u#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi RC >>>> The answers (Green) bridge I got running fine. >>>> It's the forums bridge (blue) that driving me ....... >>>> The error message it gives is as follows: >>>> In order to use Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge you must first log into >>>> forums & enable the "use NNTP Bridge" option in the My settings page. >>>> Trouble is it's already enabled. >>>> >>>> >>>> "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message >>>> news:#UFlDku#KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi, Kue2. >>>>> >>>>> There are two NNTP Bridge versions (as of today): >>>>> Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge: >>>>> Service URL: >>>>> http://services.social.microsoft.com/ForumsServicePreview/ForumsService.svc >>>>> Version: 1.1.0.0 >>>>> NNTP IP Address: 127.0.0.1 >>>>> NNTP Port: 119 >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft Answers NNTP Bridge: >>>>> Service URL: >>>>> http://services.answers.microsoft.com/ForumsServicePreview/ForumsService.svc >>>>> Version: 1.0.0.171 >>>>> NNTP IP Address: 127.0.0.1 >>>>> NNTP Port: 120 >>>>> >>>>> Each has its own startup screen; Forums is blue, Answers is green. >>>>> The two windows appear identical except for the variables above. (No, >>>>> I don't know which is "the second one".) >>>>> >>>>> I've not yet figured out all the differences, including why we need >>>>> two bridges. And I've not yet figured out how to start either one >>>>> automatically. So far, I have pinned the two icons to my Taskbar (in >>>>> Win7). But I have to click one, then click its Start button, wait for >>>>> a second, then click Sign in on its next window, then - to keep its >>>>> window from being a continuing distraction - minimize the window to my >>>>> Notification Area. And then I have to click the other Taskbar icon >>>>> and go through the same routine a second time. Four clicks for each >>>>> bridge, before I click WLM to actually begin my News/Forums/Answers >>>>> session. :>( I sure hope someone at Microsoft is working on >>>>> simplifying and speeding up this process! >>>>> >>>>> RC >>>>> >>>>> "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:84D9465D-6D69-44C7-87B4-D79CA9802692(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>> Hi BullDawg >>>>>> what version is the "second one" of the bridge >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> "BullDawg" <eschol1948 AT Gmail Dot Com (No Spaces)@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> in message news:ht9t9t$1gv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> Because not all are going to "Answers." Been running the first >>>>>>> Bridge since Dec and the second one for Answers since yesterday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ______________ >>>>>>> BullDawg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "someone" <irvingr5(a)comcast.netnospam> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:77C9DA3B-B3E2-4ED1-96D1-1226729E031C(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>> Why can't you just download the MS Bridge? There are two Bridges >>>>>>>> now. One for the Answer forums. |