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From: Jack on 11 Mar 2010 02:24
Avast v. 5.0.462, WinXP SP3

I currently only run the File System Shield which would seem to lay over and
duplicate the Mail, Web, P2P and IM Shields but I am unsure if the Network
and Behaviour Shields are similarly covered. Any good reason to start more
Shields?

As an unrelated but welcome footnote v. 5.0 has a smaller commit footprint
than v. 4.8 on this system, which is a refreshing trend. Developers very
often seem unable to understand that a clean, light and simple tool that
provides a specific and narrowly defined application well is still far more
useful in program maturation than a coat hanger / toaster combo that tweets.

Thanks


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From: VanguardLH on 11 Mar 2010 03:25
Jack wrote:

> Avast v. 5.0.462, WinXP SP3
>
> I currently only run the File System Shield which would seem to lay over and
> duplicate the Mail, Web, P2P and IM Shields but I am unsure if the Network
> and Behaviour Shields are similarly covered. Any good reason to start more
> Shields?
>
> As an unrelated but welcome footnote v. 5.0 has a smaller commit footprint
> than v. 4.8 on this system, which is a refreshing trend. Developers very
> often seem unable to understand that a clean, light and simple tool that
> provides a specific and narrowly defined application well is still far more
> useful in program maturation than a coat hanger / toaster combo that tweets.
>
> Thanks

Learn to cross-post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

A point not made is that N multi-posted copies will consume N times the disk
space for each of the separate copies of the same post. Cross-posted
messages have just *one* copy on the server with links in the newsgroups
back to the same single copy. Multi-posting wastes disk space on the
server. Yes, your post may be small but remember that you consume N times
the space on one server and then do so again on all the newsgroups servers
worldwide. You waste more bandwidth getting N copies of your multi-posted
message distributed to all the newsgroups servers worldwide. Cross-posting
has just one copy of the message on an NNTP server, and only one copy gets
propagated to other NNTP servers.

To those visiting the newsgroups, cross-posting helps them see ALL the
replies from those in the other RELATED newsgroup to which you linked your
post. That way, they don't waste their time duplicating similar replies.

Don't cross-post to more groups than needed if at all. Many consider
cross-posting to more than 4 groups as rude and may filter out your post.
The more groups you add, the less likely that they are related, the less
accurate or focused are the targeted groups, or some of the included groups
may already be encompassed by an included parent group. If they are
subgroups under a topic, choose whether you will be specific or general in
the targeted groups to which you post. Usenet-ignorants that shotgun their
posts across multiple groups trying to capture as large an audience as
possible will offend netizens with the poor aim. Multi-posting instead of
cross-posting when shotgunning across multiple groups evidences you as a
newbie, troll, or spammer.
From: Rich Webb on 11 Mar 2010 08:34
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:24:21 -0000, "Jack" <null(a)null.com> wrote:

>Avast v. 5.0.462, WinXP SP3
>
>I currently only run the File System Shield which would seem to lay over and
>duplicate the Mail, Web, P2P and IM Shields but I am unsure if the Network
>and Behaviour Shields are similarly covered. Any good reason to start more
>Shields?

I run them all and, as of .462, using the default settings. Works fine,
no noticeable performance hits and, at least potentially, some gain in
protection, so why not run 'm all?

The web shield did seem to slow down normal browsing in the earlier V5
releases. I tried turning off the "intelligent stream scanning" (with it
off, it works in download everything and then check mode, vice checking
on the fly) and disabling the web shield altogether (which helped). But,
as of the current point release, using the default settings is okay on
my boxes.

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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
From: Bad Boy Charlie on 11 Mar 2010 10:09
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:24:21 -0000, "Jack" <null(a)null.com> wrote:

>Avast v. 5.0.462, WinXP SP3
>
>I currently only run the File System Shield which would seem to lay over and
>duplicate the Mail, Web, P2P and IM Shields but I am unsure if the Network
>and Behaviour Shields are similarly covered. Any good reason to start more
>Shields?
>
>As an unrelated but welcome footnote v. 5.0 has a smaller commit footprint
>than v. 4.8 on this system, which is a refreshing trend. Developers very
>often seem unable to understand that a clean, light and simple tool that
>provides a specific and narrowly defined application well is still far more
>useful in program maturation than a coat hanger / toaster combo that tweets.
>
>Thanks

Doggone you Jack! I had just applied for my US patent for a coat
hangar/ toaster that also Tweets!.....well..there goes my fortune!! I
don't recall in a long time reading such a witty analogy. Nice job...

I used Avast (free home version) off and on for several years and
oftentimes pondered that same question you post here. I never pursued it
at any great length but did turn some 'shields' off and some on and back
and forth without really knowing the security overview / risk of my ala
carte approach. To me it always remained a nebulous thing. Frankly that
scenario does not make me feel warm and fuzzy all over.

Recently I have purchased and am using Norton Internet Security 2010 and
am very pleased. Since Norton's revamping of it's full line of security
products starting with the 2009 releases the footprint and resource
issues that plagued Norton in the prior years (and the bad press) are
gone forever. A free and 100% fully functional trial download of NIS
2010 is available here:
http://www.symantec.com/norton/downloads/trialsoftware/offer.jsp?pvid=nis2010

It is an opt-out 30-day trial. You'll need to submit a payment method to
obtain and use the software. No charges until after the 30 day trial is
over. I didn't find that too invasive and after a couple weeks of using
it just let it automatically charge me the purchase price. Naturally you
can cancel on any day before the 30 days and no charges occur.

Symantec security products have really been improved the past 2 years
and reviewers are commenting accordingly. Even with bloat and waste the
past years (prior to the 2009 product line) in NAV and NIS were always
near the top if not at the top of AV testing agency score results. They
still do to this day.
From: Bad Boy Charlie on 11 Mar 2010 10:12
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:25:56 -0600, VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote:

>Jack wrote:
>
>> Avast v. 5.0.462, WinXP SP3
>>
>> I currently only run the File System Shield which would seem to lay over and
>> duplicate the Mail, Web, P2P and IM Shields but I am unsure if the Network
>> and Behaviour Shields are similarly covered. Any good reason to start more
>> Shields?
>>
>> As an unrelated but welcome footnote v. 5.0 has a smaller commit footprint
>> than v. 4.8 on this system, which is a refreshing trend. Developers very
>> often seem unable to understand that a clean, light and simple tool that
>> provides a specific and narrowly defined application well is still far more
>> useful in program maturation than a coat hanger / toaster combo that tweets.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>Learn to cross-post:
>
< Self-appointed Usenet Policeman crapola snipped >

"Officer..do you mind showing me your badge?"
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