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From: A.Lee on 12 Aug 2010 02:06 Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote: > A.Lee <alan(a)darkroom.+.com> wrote: > > > I've just got hold of a 933mhz iBook for my g/f. > > It'll be running 10.4 with 1gb ram. > > She'll be needing a MS compatible Office program for occasional use, > > what is the current favourite? > openoffice should be a little quicker, iwork is intended for modern macs > so is sluggish, oddly the fastest office suite is microsoft office, > partically if you can find a older version 2nd hand? OpenOffice was tried, and kept. - I've got Neo-office here on a 1.33ghz PB, and find it sluggish, and OO wins by a mile on the 933mhz, it is far quicker loading, and doesnt take an age to open a new document, as well as being a little less cluttered/easier to use. Ta Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'.
From: Duncan Kennedy on 12 Aug 2010 05:55 A.Lee <alan(a)darkroom.+.com> wrote: > Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote: > > > A.Lee <alan(a)darkroom.+.com> wrote: > > > > > I've just got hold of a 933mhz iBook for my g/f. > > > It'll be running 10.4 with 1gb ram. > > > She'll be needing a MS compatible Office program for occasional use, > > > what is the current favourite? > > > openoffice should be a little quicker, iwork is intended for modern macs > > so is sluggish, oddly the fastest office suite is microsoft office, > > partically if you can find a older version 2nd hand? > > > OpenOffice was tried, and kept. - I've got Neo-office here on a 1.33ghz > PB, and find it sluggish, and OO wins by a mile on the 933mhz, it is far > quicker loading, and doesnt take an age to open a new document, as well > as being a little less cluttered/easier to use. > That's interesting - f'm fairly new to Macs - have Neo on Mini and OO on MBP and I was beginning to come to the same conclusion. OO had a bad reputation for loading time on Windows and Linux for a while but has got better, I think. Neo does seem a bit slower. -- duncank
From: Adrian Tuddenham on 12 Aug 2010 07:28 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote: > > > A.Lee <alan(a)darkroom.+.com> wrote: > > > > > I've just got hold of a 933mhz iBook for my g/f. > > > It'll be running 10.4 with 1gb ram. > > > She'll be needing a MS compatible Office program for occasional use, > > > what is the current favourite? > > > I'm using Neo-Office here, but that seems a little sluggish, especially > > > when starting up, is Open Office any better? > > > > > > Ta > > > Alan. > > > > openoffice should be a little quicker, iwork is intended for modern macs > > so is sluggish, > > It's normal for the up to date Mac software to be not at all sluggish on > an up to date Mac. I've not noticed iWork being at all sluggish on the > few occasions I've fired up bits of it to play with (still haven't even > figured out how to use Pages yet - at least there are tutorials out > there to play with if I should ever feel the need). > > > oddly the fastest office suite is microsoft office, > > partically if you can find a older version 2nd hand? > > Claris Works is faster, if horribly obsolete. Do you mean 'obsolete' = doesn't do things that are needed or 'obsolete' = does all the things you need but the latest OS won't run it? I would agree with the latter - it is a perfectly good app which has been killed-off by fashion. -- ~ Adrian Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk
From: Rowland McDonnell on 12 Aug 2010 09:10 Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote: [snip] > > > oddly the fastest office suite is microsoft office, > > > partically if you can find a older version 2nd hand? > > > > Claris Works is faster, if horribly obsolete. > > Do you mean 'obsolete' = doesn't do things that are needed > or > 'obsolete' = does all the things you need but the latest OS won't run > it? What I mean is: Does what it says on the tin very well, but it won't run on a modern Mac. (CW has many good things going for it, but - werl, it can't replace LaTeX and LaTeX's not really suitable for replacing CW for all that you probably could use it for running a database and spreadsheet and even for drawing if you were really dedicated and suitably perverse. Look, someone wrote a flippin' Basic interpreter using TeX, I ask you!) > I would agree with the latter - it is a perfectly good app which has > been killed-off by fashion. Yup. I much prefer Claris Works 4 to AppleWorks 6 - or iWork for that matter. Because CW (any version) needs Classic, I've been using AppleWorks instead - the only remaining regular use to which I put it is running a database to keep track of my music discs. For insurance purposes, I generate a PDF file from that database using LaTeX. Why LaTeX? 'cos that way, when I print the thing out, it takes about 1/4 of the paper that printing straight from AppleWorks churns out, and it's a damned sight easier to read too. (Procedure: Save As `Text', give the result the magic name, slap it in *that* folder, and run LaTeX on the special `Typeset my record database, please' file that I contrived some years ago. Then run LaTeX twice again to get the cross-references right. Twice again? Yeah, 'cos once the actual *real* cross-references have gone in, sometimes the pagination changes, what with the dummy page numbers not necessarily being the same length as the real ones, IYSWIM. Once upon a time, this was a bit of a pain 'cos it took so bloody long to run LaTeX on a big file. My MSc disseration took 40 minutes to typeset start to finish, running on a Mac Classic. The day I submitted the thing, it took rather longer, 'cos I'd been up all night and was fitting in some tea and a bath around the typesetting. Hey, just 'cos the machine's busy doesn't mean I have to sit in front of it, right? But these days - well, never mind CPU advances: one of the old problems was that Mac TeX distros used a slow method of pushing text on to the screen, which slowed things down a lot. One of the recent MacTeX releases unbunged that bottleneck and TeX now runs at the sort of speed you'd hope.) Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Adrian Tuddenham on 12 Aug 2010 10:56
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > ... Look, > someone wrote a flippin' Basic interpreter using TeX, I ask you!) I've written a spreadsheet for enciphering/deciphering text in CW. Not quite in the same league, but very interesting. -- ~ Adrian Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk |