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From: Sam TH on 12 Jun 2010 16:08 On Jun 12, 1:54 pm, Å tÄpán NÄmec <step...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Eli Barzilay <e...(a)barzilay.org> writes: > >> If the environment were open, why would some facilities be hidden in > >> its tools? Among other things, you can't single step Racket outside > >> of DrRacket. That sounds as a closed environment to me. > > > How is that closed when the code for doing so is all there as part of > > any *OPEN* source project?  I don't even need to defend some black > > C-level voodoo that does it, since it's all done in scheme code.  It's > > true that most of the current code uses the GUI, but that's only > > because nobody felt the need yet for doing so outside of the GUI. > > [snip] > > I find this really hard to believe. I use the GUI only for the debugger > and macro stepper. I would _love_ to have that functionality available > in a regular REPL (OTOH, especially the macro stepper uses a lot of > "eye-candyish" features, so it is a bit hard to imagine in some kind of > text-only interface). The macro stepper provides a repl-based text interface: http://docs.racket-lang.org/macro-debugger/index.html?q=macro-debugger#%28mod-path._macro-debugger/stepper-text%29
From: nanothermite911fbibustards on 12 Jun 2010 16:14 On Jun 12, 12:57 pm, p...(a)informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) wrote: > George Neuner <gneun...(a)comcast.net> writes: > > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:57:08 +0300, "Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski" > > <antti.yliko...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>OT: (very Off Topic.............) > >>I would not trust dolphins to take care of my investments. > > > Why not? Remember the chimpanzee that picked stocks and beat many > > professional fund managers? > >http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dart-throwing-chimp-still-making-mon... > > > The average dolphin's brain is bigger than the average human's (and > > far bigger than a chimpanzee's). Dolphin investment strategies might > > look fishy to us but dolphins have a unique point of view on important > > industries such as transportation, telecommunications, construction, > > tourism, energy exploration, food production, etc. > > > I'd trust a dolphin over a Wall Street fund manager any day. > > Me too. At least, the dolphin wouldn't be a former SEC president, and > would have no use for our painfully spared dollars. > > -- > __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ Are we really so sure to be that off topic ? What about the sweet Bernard Madoff ?
From: nanothermite911fbibustards on 12 Jun 2010 16:16 On Jun 12, 12:57 pm, p...(a)informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) wrote: > George Neuner <gneun...(a)comcast.net> writes: > > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:57:08 +0300, "Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski" > > <antti.yliko...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>OT: (very Off Topic.............) > >>I would not trust dolphins to take care of my investments. > > > Why not? Remember the chimpanzee that picked stocks and beat many > > professional fund managers? > >http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dart-throwing-chimp-still-making-mon... > > > The average dolphin's brain is bigger than the average human's (and > > far bigger than a chimpanzee's). Dolphin investment strategies might > > look fishy to us but dolphins have a unique point of view on important > > industries such as transportation, telecommunications, construction, > > tourism, energy exploration, food production, etc. > > > I'd trust a dolphin over a Wall Street fund manager any day. > > Me too. At least, the dolphin wouldn't be a former SEC president, and > would have no use for our painfully spared dollars. > > -- > __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ Are we so sure to go so much off topic to SEC and Bernard Madoff ? ---- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQapkVCx1HI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ-k-iOg0M Hey Racist and INcompetent FBI Bustards, where is the ANTHRAX Mailer ? Where are the 4 blackboxes ? Where are the Pentagon Videos ? Why did you release the 5 dancing Israelis compromising the whole 911 investigation ? If the Dubai Police can catch Mossad Murderers and put the videos and Iranian Police can why cant you put the Pentagon Videos ? If Iran police can put the AMERICAN TERRORIST, Riggi and puting on INTERNATIONAL MEDIA a day after catching him without TORTURE, why cant you put the INNOCENT patsies on the MEDIA. Why did you have to LIE about Dr Afiya Siddiqui and torture that Innocent little mother of 3 and smashing the skull of her one child ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhMcii8smxk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZ2lxDJmdg There are CRIMINAL cases against CIA CRIMINAL Bustards in Italian courts. FBI bustards paid a penalty of $5.8 million to Steven Hatfill, but only because he was a white. They got away with MURDER of thousands of Non-whites in all parts of the world. Daily 911 news : http://911blogger.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7kGZ3XPEm4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY
From: nanothermite911fbibustards on 12 Jun 2010 16:25 On Jun 12, 1:14 pm, nanothermite911fbibustards <nanothermite911fbibusta...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 12, 12:57 pm, p...(a)informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) > wrote: > > > > > George Neuner <gneun...(a)comcast.net> writes: > > > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:57:08 +0300, "Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski" > > > <antti.yliko...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>OT: (very Off Topic.............) > > >>I would not trust dolphins to take care of my investments. > > > > Why not? Remember the chimpanzee that picked stocks and beat many > > > professional fund managers? > > >http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dart-throwing-chimp-still-making-mon.... > > > > The average dolphin's brain is bigger than the average human's (and > > > far bigger than a chimpanzee's). Dolphin investment strategies might > > > look fishy to us but dolphins have a unique point of view on important > > > industries such as transportation, telecommunications, construction, > > > tourism, energy exploration, food production, etc. > > > > I'd trust a dolphin over a Wall Street fund manager any day. > > > Me too. At least, the dolphin wouldn't be a former SEC president, and > > would have no use for our painfully spared dollars. > > > -- > > __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ > > Are we really so sure to be that off topic ? > > What about the sweet Bernard Madoff ? how to get off topic ----- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQapkVCx1HI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ-k-iOg0M Hey Racist and INcompetent FBI Bustards, where is the ANTHRAX Mailer ? Where are the 4 blackboxes ? Where are the Pentagon Videos ? Why did you release the 5 dancing Israelis compromising the whole 911 investigation ? If the Dubai Police can catch Mossad Murderers and put the videos and Iranian Police can why cant you put the Pentagon Videos ? If Iran police can put the AMERICAN TERRORIST, Riggi and puting on INTERNATIONAL MEDIA a day after catching him without TORTURE, why cant you put the INNOCENT patsies on the MEDIA. Why did you have to LIE about Dr Afiya Siddiqui and torture that Innocent little mother of 3 and smashing the skull of her one child ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhMcii8smxk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZ2lxDJmdg There are CRIMINAL cases against CIA CRIMINAL Bustards in Italian courts. FBI bustards paid a penalty of $5.8 million to Steven Hatfill, but only because he was a white. They got away with MURDER of thousands of Non-whites in all parts of the world. Daily 911 news : http://911blogger.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7kGZ3XPEm4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY
From: nanothermite911fbibustards on 13 Jun 2010 16:57
On Jun 12, 9:02 pm, "Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski" <antti.yliko...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 12.6.2010 22:54, Pascal J. Bourguignon kirjoitti: > > > bolega<gnuist...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > >>> [PAIP] > > >> Is there anything in this old norvig book that makes it worth > >> pursuing as a text ? > > > Yes. > > I agree with his criticism that the book is "old", mine stems from the > year 1992. > > I bought and studied the Russell-Norvig books on "Artificial > Intelligence: A Modern Approach", ie. the 1th, 2nd (and in the future > the 3rd edition), in order to learn modern AI theory. They have > discontinued the 3rd edition but I succeeded in ordering a copy anyway. > I have read the 1st and the 2nd editions, but I have not yet received > by mail the 3rd edition. > > But I only got the PAIP book to learn Common LISP, not in order to study > modern AI. This is why I'm discussing this in the new:comp.lang.LISP > newsgroup. > > Any good modern LISP textbooks out there? > > Can anyone point to me any other good modern textbooks on AI than the > 3rd edition of the Russell-Norvig book? (Which is reputable.) > > kind regards, Antti Ylikoski > Helsinki, Finland, the E.U. Antti, did you forget to mention that in your love for the author and publisher you paid an extra tip ;) ? |