From: Roy on
On Apr 20, 2:00 pm, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 10:58 am, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> > On Apr 19, 12:51 am, Roy <royba...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 19, 1:42 am, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 18, 3:51 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...(a)nospamyahoo.com.au>
> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
>
> > > > > > which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
>
> > > > > > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > > > >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
> > > > > >>>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
> > > > > >>>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
> > > > > >>>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
> > > > > >>>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down and
> > > > > >>>> paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I would have
> > > > > >>>> paid for a similarly-specced new (complet
>
> > > > > Alienware.
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> > > > >http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-alienware-m17x/pd.asp...
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> > > > That Laptop (Mobile Desktop) is wonderful.
>
> > > > Pros: Everything that's near to my dream laptop
> > > > Cons: 5.5 Kgs, 17"
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> > > > > --
> > > > > Shaun.
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> > > > > "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson- Hide quoted text -
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> > > Heavy ,?
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> > > Well ....You have other choices from their products....
> > > The M15xhttp://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/alienware-m15x.aspx
> > > and the M11xhttp://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5548&p=2http://www.d......
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> > > Now they are lighter ,, am sure you can afford it now....<grin>..
>
> > Intel Core i5-430M Processor 2.26 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up
> > to 2.53 GHz
> > 4GB DDR3 1066MHz RAM, 2 SODIMM Slots; 8GB Max
> > 500GB Hard Drive (7200 RPM); Super Multi Optical Disk Drive; Wi-Fi
> > 802.11 bgn
> > 15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 LED LCD Display; NVidia GTS 360M Graphics
> > Engine with 1GB DDR5 dedicated VRAM
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> >http://realjunction.com/ASUS_G51JX-X3
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> > This one also seems better.
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so are you already happy with that would be willing to put your money
on it? Or you are just presenting new things just for the sake of
pointless discussion.........?
From: ~misfit~ on
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
> On Apr 19, 12:51 am, Roy <royba...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 19, 1:42 am, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
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>>> On Apr 18, 3:51 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...(a)nospamyahoo.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
>>
>>>>> which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
>>
>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
>>>>>>>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>>>>>>>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
>>>>>>>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
>>>>>>>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down
>>>>>>>> and paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I
>>>>>>>> would have paid for a similarly-specced new (complet
>>
>>>> Alienware.
>>
>>>> http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-alienware-m17x/pd.asp...
>>
>>> That Laptop (Mobile Desktop) is wonderful.
>>
>>> Pros: Everything that's near to my dream laptop
>>> Cons: 5.5 Kgs, 17"
>>
>>>> --
>>>> Shaun.
>>
>>>> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G
>>>> Jackson- Hide quoted text -
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>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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>> Heavy ,?
>>
>> Well ....You have other choices from their products....
>> The M15xhttp://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/alienware-m15x.aspx
>> and the
>> M11xhttp://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5548&p=2http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/alienware-m1...
>>
>> Now they are lighter ,, am sure you can afford it now....<grin>..
>
> Intel Core i5-430M Processor 2.26 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up
> to 2.53 GHz
> 4GB DDR3 1066MHz RAM, 2 SODIMM Slots; 8GB Max
> 500GB Hard Drive (7200 RPM); Super Multi Optical Disk Drive; Wi-Fi
> 802.11 bgn
> 15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 LED LCD Display; NVidia GTS 360M Graphics
> Engine with 1GB DDR5 dedicated VRAM
>
> http://realjunction.com/ASUS_G51JX-X3
>
> This one also seems better.

Are you sure that a single GTS 360M beats (dual) SLI GTX 260M or (dual) ATI
4870 X2 that are available on the Alienware M17?

This chart has the SLI GTX 260M rated in second place and the GTS 360M in
27th place.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

It might be lighter but it's hardly a better gaming machine. The GTS 360M
only gets 9819 3DMark06 points compared with 15019 for the SLI GTX 260M.

That's:
9819
15019

Big difference. If you're going to ask "which is best laptop to play highend
graphic games" then ignore the replies at your peril.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson


From: ~misfit~ on
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
> On Apr 19, 12:51 am, Roy <royba...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 19, 1:42 am, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> On Apr 18, 3:51 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...(a)nospamyahoo.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
>>
>>>>> which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
>>
>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
>>>>>>>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>>>>>>>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
>>>>>>>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one I'm
>>>>>>>> using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it down
>>>>>>>> and paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand as I
>>>>>>>> would have paid for a similarly-specced new (complet
>>
>>>> Alienware.
>>
>>>> http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-alienware-m17x/pd.asp...
>>
>>> That Laptop (Mobile Desktop) is wonderful.
>>
>>> Pros: Everything that's near to my dream laptop
>>> Cons: 5.5 Kgs, 17"
>>
>>>> --
>>>> Shaun.
>>
>>>> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G
>>>> Jackson- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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>>> - Show quoted text -
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>> Heavy ,?
>>
>> Well ....You have other choices from their products....
>> The M15xhttp://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/alienware-m15x.aspx
>> and the
>> M11xhttp://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5548&p=2http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/alienware-m1...
>>
>> Now they are lighter ,, am sure you can afford it now....<grin>..
>
> Intel Core i5-430M Processor 2.26 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up
> to 2.53 GHz
> 4GB DDR3 1066MHz RAM, 2 SODIMM Slots; 8GB Max
> 500GB Hard Drive (7200 RPM); Super Multi Optical Disk Drive; Wi-Fi
> 802.11 bgn
> 15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 LED LCD Display; NVidia GTS 360M Graphics
> Engine with 1GB DDR5 dedicated VRAM
>
> http://realjunction.com/ASUS_G51JX-X3
>
> This one also seems better.

Gah! I hit send too soon! I'll soon be looking like you, replying multiple
times to myself, have to stop that.

Anyway, the other point that I meant to make was that a higher number
doesn't mean a better graphics chip. The GTS 360M only has a 128 bit memory
bus whereas the GTX 280M is 256 bit.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTS-360M.24058.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-280M.14558.0.html

In fact a single GTX 280M is faster than a single GTS 360M and the Alienware
M17 can be configured with *two* GTX 280s in SLI.

The Asus is a dog for gaming compared with the Alienware. Anyway, why am I
doing your research for you? You asked a question, I gave an answer.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson


From: ~misfit~ on
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
> On Apr 21, 5:10 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...(a)nospamyahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
>>> On Apr 19, 12:51 am, Roy <royba...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 19, 1:42 am, Ganesh <ganeshjacha...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Apr 18, 3:51 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...(a)nospamyahoo.com.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ganesh wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> which is best laptop to play highend graphic games
>>
>>>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Roy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 8:11 am, "~misfit~"wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> [snip Roy / Ganesh babble]
>>>>>>>>>> Jebus but you guys talk to yourselves a lot
>>>>>>>>>> The best laptop 'in the town', without a doubt, is this one
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using. I spent quite a bit of time last year tracking it
>>>>>>>>>> down and paid as much or more for it (or more) second-hand
>>>>>>>>>> as I would have paid for a similarly-specced new (complet
>>
>>>>>> Alienware.
>>
>>>>>> http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-alienware-m17x/pd.asp...
>>
>>>>> That Laptop (Mobile Desktop) is wonderful.
>>
>>>>> Pros: Everything that's near to my dream laptop
>>>>> Cons: 5.5 Kgs, 17"
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shaun.
>>
>>>>>> "When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G
>>>>>> Jackson- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>> - Show quoted text -
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>>>> Heavy ,?
>>
>>>> Well ....You have other choices from their products....
>>>> The M15xhttp://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/alienware-m15x.aspx
>>>> and the
>>>> M11xhttp://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5548&p=2http://www.d......
>>
>>>> Now they are lighter ,, am sure you can afford it now....<grin>..
>>
>>> Intel Core i5-430M Processor 2.26 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up
>>> to 2.53 GHz
>>> 4GB DDR3 1066MHz RAM, 2 SODIMM Slots; 8GB Max
>>> 500GB Hard Drive (7200 RPM); Super Multi Optical Disk Drive; Wi-Fi
>>> 802.11 bgn
>>> 15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 LED LCD Display; NVidia GTS 360M Graphics
>>> Engine with 1GB DDR5 dedicated VRAM
>>
>>> http://realjunction.com/ASUS_G51JX-X3
>>
>>> This one also seems better.
>>
>> Gah! I hit send too soon! I'll soon be looking like you, replying
>> multiple times to myself, have to stop that.
>>
>> Anyway, the other point that I meant to make was that a higher number
>> doesn't mean a better graphics chip. The GTS 360M only has a 128 bit
>> memory bus whereas the GTX 280M is 256 bit.
>>
>
> I did not know about that. I am trying to update my technical
> information. I see what you mean, but a ordinary uninformed buyer
> would perceive things literally the way I am doing.

Ok, I get that. However if you're going to ask an opinion, then say that
something else looks better it would be good if you did "update your
technical information" *before* you say that X is better than the one I
pointed you to in response to your question.
--
Shaun.

"When we dream.... that's just our brains defragmenting" G Jackson


From: Roy on
On Apr 21, 8:47 am, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...(a)nospamyahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>
> I guess that paragraph shows the difference between us Roy. I care about
> what a computer does and how reliable it is.

I also care for my computer that it should be durable, as well as
attractive to look at...
Well to me my Sony had been reliable and had not failed me for many
years...
had three VAIO laptops and fortunately none of them had any hardware
defect except for the DVD writer which was easily replaced in the
Sony center) , had upgraded the hard drive and increased the RAM
and the oldest one is already 7 years old and it still running
well....
So to me it’s reliable....

>For me it's not a fashion
> accessory. (I'm handsome and charming, I don't need a bling laptop to
> attract a mate or impress my friends.) All I care about is if it does it's
> job reliably and is well-made. In fact it's my experience that if something
> is bling it's likely to get stolen by people who think bling is everything.


I don't treat it as a fashion item, either as I don't upgrade my
gadgets often....but only when I need to...or when I find some unit
with features that I need and its not found in my existing notebooks.
Shaun impressing other people is the least of my concern, as my
laptops are my personal investments and I prefer a pretty unit than
an ugly one.
It just like having a girlfriend , at least she should be attractive
as well to be worthwhile maintaining her

you say you are handsome but do you tolerate having with you an ugly
woman as your partner just because he is more devoted….?
and more useful to you?...... or maybe its the opposite as a handsome
guy is what you prefer.......?

> He told me he has a couple of boxes full of Sony laptops that are too
> expensive to repair to be worth while, the only real source of parts is
> Sony, . To me
> *my* satisfaction with the machine and knowing that I can get parts
> reasonably easilly and cheaply if I ever need them is far more important.


I , repairs is my least concern, and supposing one of this unit will
conk out in time, well I can easily replace it with the latest
model...no sweat...
Why wouldI I perpetuate and obsolete hardware if its not working well,
its indeed cheaper to replace it than to repair....?


> Everybody has different expectations from their laptop. Therefore when I say
> that I think ThinkPads are the best laptops obviously it's my opinion.

I agree a


Roy