From: Sadeq on 2 Aug 2010 23:43 Recently, while reading a paper, I encountered the term "Elementary Cylinder Set." (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder_set for more info.) Wandering about in several books related to Topology (as well as other subjects in math, such as Set Theory, Probability Theory, Measure Theory, etc.), I couldn't find a clue why such sets are called "Cylinder Sets." What is the intuition behind? In addition, do we have sets such as "Cone Sets," "Torus Sets," and so on?
From: William Elliot on 3 Aug 2010 03:58 On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Sadeq wrote: > Recently, while reading a paper, I encountered the term "Elementary > Cylinder Set." (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder_set for more > info.) > Wandering about in several books related to Topology (as well as other > subjects in math, such as Set Theory, Probability Theory, Measure > Theory, etc.), I couldn't find a clue why such sets are called > "Cylinder Sets." What is the intuition behind? Within R^3, S = (0,1)x(0,1)xR is a solid square cylinder, the geomertic interor of the square cylinder .. . {0,1}x[0,1]xR \/ [0,1]x{0,1}xR. S is homeomorphic to the solid cylinder .. . { (x,y) | x^2 + y^2 < 1 } x R. > In addition, do we have sets such as "Cone Sets," > "Torus Sets," and so on? > No. There is however, a topological generalization of the geometric cone.
From: Sadeq on 3 Aug 2010 07:13 On Aug 3, 11:58 am, William Elliot <ma...(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Sadeq wrote: > > Recently, while reading a paper, I encountered the term "Elementary > > Cylinder Set." (Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder_setfor more > > info.) > > Wandering about in several books related to Topology (as well as other > > subjects in math, such as Set Theory, Probability Theory, Measure > > Theory, etc.), I couldn't find a clue why such sets are called > > "Cylinder Sets." What is the intuition behind? > > Within R^3, S = (0,1)x(0,1)xR is a solid square cylinder, > the geomertic interor of the square cylinder > . . {0,1}x[0,1]xR \/ [0,1]x{0,1}xR. > > S is homeomorphic to the solid cylinder > . . { (x,y) | x^2 + y^2 < 1 } x R. > > > In addition, do we have sets such as "Cone Sets," > > "Torus Sets," and so on? > > No. There is however, a topological generalization of the geometric cone. Thanks a lot!
From: Dave L. Renfro on 3 Aug 2010 10:33 Sadeq wrote: > Recently, while reading a paper, I encountered the term > "Elementary Cylinder Set." > (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder_set for more info.) > > Wandering about in several books related to Topology (as well > as other subjects in math, such as Set Theory, Probability > Theory, Measure Theory, etc.), I couldn't find a clue why > such sets are called "Cylinder Sets." What is the intuition > behind? In addition, do we have sets such as "Cone Sets," > "Torus Sets," and so on? Looking at the definition, I see that an ordinary (infinite in both directions) right circular cylinder is the inverse image of a circle (1-sphere) under the second coordinate map of the product space R x (R^2). You can get 3-dim rectangular plank regions (2-by-4 planks like you use to build wooden houses with) of infinite extent in the same way, except use planar rectangular regions in the second factor space R^2 of R x (R^2). To get rectangular planar strips parallel to a coordinate axes, use the inverse images of bounded intervals under either coordinate map in the product space R x R. I guess these all have a "cylindrical feel" about them, in the sense that, with finite dimensional Euclidean spaces as factors, you get regions that have cross-sections all congruent in one or more directions. There is also the notion of a "cone over a space" used in algebraic topology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_(topology) As for generalizations of torous sets, I would guess products of spheres (especially used in homotopy theory) would be the relevant generalization (recall that the ordinary torous is the product space S^1 x S^1): http://www.google.com/search?as_q=+homotopy&as_epq=products+of+spheres Dave L. Renfro
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