From: nospam on
In article <uvo936lo8bemg6limfrnegohhkbge54kqi(a)4ax.com>, Bruce
<docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> The technician who services my DSLRs tells me that bent pins in the
> camera are extremely rare. He knows of only one case in over ten
> years of servicing Nikon and Canon DSLRs. He spent the first five
> years at Nikon UK's service centre and the rest of the time at the
> UK's premier Nikon (and Canon) authorised pro repair centre.

now go talk to a local repair shop. the one up the street from me tells
me it's very common. in fact, i was in the store one day and someone
brought in a camera with bent pins. it happens.
From: Peter on
"Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Even at base ISO, there will be either visible noise or the visible
> smudging effects of noise reduction. There will be serious levels of
> rectilinear distortion and chromatic aberration thanks to the desire
> of the marketing department for ever greater zoom rations.
>

How many zooms will be allowed each person.


--
Peter

From: Peter on
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <vfo936l9trq00loh7lfla87fl1iiekab30(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
> <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> >Even at base ISO, there will be either visible noise or the visible
>> >smudging effects of noise reduction. There will be serious levels of
>> >rectilinear distortion and chromatic aberration thanks to the desire
>> >of the marketing department for ever greater zoom rations.
>> >
>> >The Laws of Physics dictate that, ...
>>
>> Simply not true.
>
> it is true, as has been shown to you countless times.


Come on guys. Let's have another old fashioned pissing contest.

--
Peter

From: nospam on
In article <k3q9365esb70s00lqquk5o92ecbqa44id9(a)4ax.com>, Bruce
<docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> For the first few years of using digital cameras, whether SLR or P&S,
> I rarely used anything other than base ISO - through necessity,
> because their high ISO performance was woeful.
>
> However, my Canon EOS 5D bodies performed very well at up to ISO 1600
> and my Nikon D700 performs spectacularly well at ISO 12,800. I shoot
> weddings and social events for a living and the freedom that the D700
> gives me to shoot in low light without flash is quite astonishing.
>
> Why on earth would I want to handicap myself by using only ISO 100?

no kidding. i'm shooting at iso speeds i could only dream about when i
shot film.

> Using a small sensor digital camera would mean going back to that
> situation. It is not something I would do. Why would I, when all my
> competitors are shooting very high quality images at high ISOs?

yep.

> As I have said before, I would value a small sensor digital camera for
> some macro work on account of its greatly increased depth of field.

actually the depth of field is the same for the same image quality.

> There is also the value of having a camera that is small in size and
> light in weight and therefore relatively inconspicuous.

true.
From: ray on
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:51:22 -0400, krishnananda wrote:

> In article <89jj81F852U36(a)mid.individual.net>, ray <ray(a)zianet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 23:08:21 -0400, krishnananda wrote:
>>
>> > In article <89hiahF852U33(a)mid.individual.net>, ray <ray(a)zianet.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:14:24 -0400, krishnananda wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <89gu75F852U27(a)mid.individual.net>, ray
>> >> > <ray(a)zianet.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:27:43 -0400, krishnananda wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <i0v17o$pee$1(a)qmul>,
>> >> >> > "whisky-dave" <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "ray" <ray(a)zianet.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:89f1q4F852U22(a)mid.individual.net...
>> >> >> >> > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:15 +0200, Ofnuts wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > See other reply. Canon makes things other than cameras -
>> >> >> >> > e.g. printers. Until they show a little Linux support, I
>> >> >> >> > prefer to ignore all their offerings. I don't expect you or
>> >> >> >> > anyone else to be with me - but that is my reason.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I can almost understand your stance, it's similar to some
>> >> >> >> friends I have that are vegetarian and refuse to go in to
>> >> >> >> McDonalds .
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> But I'm curious about one thing is it that Canon OS doesn't
>> >> >> >> support Linux or is it that Linux don't support Canon ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps users of FreeBSD, OpenSolaris, NetBSD, and other
>> >> >> > *server* operating systems should also boycott Canon, Nikon,
>> >> >> > and other vendors of *consumer-level* software?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For the 5 people using Linux as their desktop OS, well Linux
>> >> >> > itself was always roll your own. Don't like Canon? Write your
>> >> >> > own software.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Folk have indeed written software to handle, for example, Canon
>> >> >> raw file types. What they can't do is write software for
>> >> >> 'winprinters' and other Canon products - at least without proper
>> >> >> documentation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No comment on your ignorance about number of Linux users.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, my mistake. The _6_ people who use Linux as a desktop etc.
>> >> > etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Canon won't even release their latest RAW file specs to Adobe let
>> >> > alone the innards of something called a "WIN-printer". I'll go out
>> >> > on a limb and guess that there will never be a Mac driver for a
>> >> > WINprinter and I don't care. I don't find it necessary to boycott
>> >> > Canon or whine interminably about how everyone picks on my
>> >> > computer's operating system.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Not whining at all. Also not trying to convert anyone. I was asked
>> >> why I eschew Canon and I replied - no more, no less.
>> >>
>> >> > Get over it. Their legal department probably had mass apoplexy at
>> >> > the thought of all those pissed off Linux users suing Canon over
>> >> > some teenager's "open source" software that is supposed to work
>> >> > perfectly on all computers and all Canon devices but crashes
>> >> > instead.
>> >> >
>> >> > Remember, the corollary to free software is the deep-pockets rule
>> >> > of lawsuits.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not asking that Canon develop Linux drivers - simply allow
>> >> others to write them. They don't, so I don't.
>> >
>> > All kidding and tongue-in-cheek aside (and I _was_ kidding...) it
>> > seems to me that trying to get Winprinters to print from operating
>> > systems other than Windows would only be worth it if the printer
>> > itself is something special.
>> >
>> > Like Winmodems of days gone by, Winprinters (technically Graphics
>> > Device Interface printers) rely on the host OS for all image
>> > processing and therefore can be manufactured extremely cheaply. If
>> > there was something like ultra-high resolution or hexachrome printing
>> > I could see making the effort, but for the el-cheapo printers Canon
>> > makes as GDI devices I'd rather use a decent printer instead. None of
>> > the GDI printers uses a proper RIP, certainly not PostScript.
>> >
>> > What I don't know is whether you could hook up a Winprinter and then
>> > print to it under WINE. That is a kluge, of course, but I'd rather
>> > use a high-end high-resolution printer anyway.
>> >
>> > Source: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winprinter#GDI_printers> (just
>> > because it's on the wiki thing doesn't automatically mean it's
>> > wrong...)
>> >
>> > Oh, and according to <www.numberof.net> their estimate as of June
>> > 2010 there are approximately 19 million Linux users :-)
>>
>> Does the term 'example' mean anything to you?
>
> Example
>
> ORIGIN late Middle English : from Old French, from Latin exemplum, from
> eximere 'take out,' from ex- 'out' + emere 'take.'
>
> Noun
> 1. A thing characteristic of its kind or illustrating a general rule :
> it's a good example of how European action can produce results | some of
> these carpets are among the finest examples of the period.
>
> 2. A printed or written problem or exercise designed to illustrate a
> rule.
>
> 3. A person or thing regarded in terms of their fitness to be imitated
> or the likelihood of their being imitated : it is vitally important that
> parents should set an example | she followed her brother's example and
> deserted her family.
>
> Verb ( be exampled)
> Be illustrated or exemplified : the extent of Allied naval support is
> exampled by the navigational specialists provided.
>
> PHRASES
> "For example" used to introduce something chosen as a typical case :
> many, like Helen, for example, come from very poor backgrounds.
>
> "Make an example of" punish as a warning to others.
>
>
> So, your point is what?

Geez - I didn't think you'd totally miss the point. I used the Canon
winprinter as an EXAMPLE. They make other equipment that is equally
useless for Linux. Another EXAMPLE - their scanners used to be nearly as
bad.

>
> "Linux tech advice, for example, often involves recompiling the kernel."
>
> "Winprinters, for example, utilize Windows APIs exclusively, and are not
> designed to be easily used with other operating systems."
>
> "Linus Torvalds, for example, got around the high price of proprietary
> Unix by writing a kernel based on Minix."
>
> "Canon and Nikon, for example, started out as third-party lens makers
> for Leica and Contax rangefinder cameras."
>
> "Soichiro Honda and Dr. Ferdinand Porsche are examples of racing auto
> mechanics who founded successful automobile manufacturing companies."