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From: BillW50 on 29 Oct 2009 17:03 In news:Z6mGm.178$hJ2.106(a)newsfe13.iad, Bob Newman typed on Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:34:11 -0500: > "Larry" <noone(a)home.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9CB313580A94Bnoonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13... >> "Bob Newman" <bobnewman(a)cox.net> wrote in news:cV4Gm.40366$cL1.12721 >> @newsfe20.iad: >> >>> If Microsoft says that Win 7 will run just fine on 1 GB why don't >>> they install it (instead of Starter Edition) on netbooks? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >> >> Do you need an answer to that question?.....(c;] >> >> Ah, I didn't think so..... >> >> -- >> Larry >> > > Yes I need an answer. Let me rephrase. Why do most of the netbooks > come with a "crippled" version of Windows 7 when Microsoft says they > are fully capable of running the standard, basic version they put in > other, let's call them "economical" computers. Is it possibly a > concession the computer manufacturers make to keep netbook prices > low? To my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong) the "Starter" > edition is found nowhere but on netbooks. Hello Bob! Yes you nailed it. As Windows 7 Starter is offered for much less to license. Thus this makes netbook manufactures happy, as they can offer Windows 7 netbooks at a reduced cost. Those netbook users who wants the more expensive versions of Windows 7 and finds the Starter version as too limited, are offered inexpensive upgrade path (Windows Anytime Upgrade). http://jkontherun.com/2009/08/02/windows-7-upgrades-for-netbooks-with-starter-edition-begin-at-80/ -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
From: Barry Watzman on 30 Oct 2009 17:52 Re: "Why do most of the netbooks come with a "crippled" version of Windows 7 when Microsoft says they are fully capable of running the standard, basic version they put in other, let's call them "economical" computers." You know the answer. Because of the price of the netbooks themselves (sometimes as low as $199), MS has to offer an OS at much less than the normal price for a "full" OS (and yes, the fact that the netbooks could use "free" Linux IS a factor). But they can't let the netbooks have "full functionality" for that price. So the have to create an OS version that can be sold into that market, but which will still leave incentive to upgrade or buy a more feature-rich product, and which won't compete with the full-feature products sold at higher prices. Re: "To my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong) the "Starter" edition is found nowhere but on netbooks." You are wrong on that one. Starter edition is also offered on low-end PCs (conventional desktops and laptops) in some parts of the world which are far more price sensitive than the US. This includes parts of Africa, South America and Asia. However, as far as I know, in terms of the US and European markets, starter edition is only offered on Netbooks. Bob Newman wrote: > "Larry" <noone(a)home.com> wrote in message > > Yes I need an answer. Let me rephrase. Why do most of the netbooks come > with a "crippled" version of Windows 7 when Microsoft says they are fully > capable of running the standard, basic version they put in other, let's call > them "economical" computers. Is it possibly a concession the computer > manufacturers make to keep netbook prices low? To my knowledge (please > correct me if I'm wrong) the "Starter" edition is found nowhere but on > netbooks. > > Bob > >
From: Barry Watzman on 30 Oct 2009 17:55 Re: "Those netbook users who wants the more expensive versions of Windows 7 and finds the Starter version as too limited, are offered inexpensive upgrade path (Windows Anytime Upgrade)." The "Windows Anytime Upgrade" is not an inexpensive upgrade path. In fact, in many cases, the cost of an "anytime" upgrade is more than 80% of the cost of just buying a copy of the edition being upgraded to. It is, in my view, an OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive upgrade path. BillW50 wrote: > > Hello Bob! Yes you nailed it. As Windows 7 Starter is offered for much > less to license. Thus this makes netbook manufactures happy, as they can > offer Windows 7 netbooks at a reduced cost. Those netbook users who > wants the more expensive versions of Windows 7 and finds the Starter > version as too limited, are offered inexpensive upgrade path (Windows > Anytime Upgrade). > > http://jkontherun.com/2009/08/02/windows-7-upgrades-for-netbooks-with-starter-edition-begin-at-80/ >
From: Larry on 30 Oct 2009 20:26 Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM(a)neo.rr.com> wrote in news:hcfn6r$qag$1 @news.eternal-september.org: > Because of the price of the netbooks themselves (sometimes as low as > $199), MS has to offer an OS at much less than the normal price for a > "full" OS (and yes, the fact that the netbooks could use "free" Linux IS > a factor). But they can't let the netbooks have "full functionality" > for that price. So the have to create an OS version that can be sold > into that market, but which will still leave incentive to upgrade or buy > a more feature-rich product, and which won't compete with the > full-feature products sold at higher prices. > > So. What's missin'? Is what's missin' the stuff no netbook will ever use, namely Windows NT server functions? -- Larry http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download-netbook Of course, Tiny Vista 6.1 isn't written specifically for the netbooks, their Atom processors and their Atom chipset configuration because it runs on Cheap Desktop PCs.....so it will never run like Ubuntu Netbook Remix which is, with a lot of research and in conjunction with the hardware designers.... This is the REAL upgrade....(c;]
From: BillW50 on 30 Oct 2009 21:22
In news:hcfn6r$qag$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Barry Watzman typed on Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:52:19 -0400: > Re: "Why do most of the netbooks come with a "crippled" version of > Windows 7 when Microsoft says they are fully capable of running the > standard, basic version they put in other, let's call them > "economical" computers." > > You know the answer. > > Because of the price of the netbooks themselves (sometimes as low as > $199), MS has to offer an OS at much less than the normal price for a > "full" OS (and yes, the fact that the netbooks could use "free" Linux > IS a factor). But they can't let the netbooks have "full > functionality" for that price. So the have to create an OS version > that can be sold into that market, but which will still leave > incentive to upgrade or buy a more feature-rich product, and which > won't compete with the full-feature products sold at higher prices. > > Re: "To my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong) the "Starter" > edition is found nowhere but on netbooks." > > You are wrong on that one. Starter edition is also offered on low-end > PCs (conventional desktops and laptops) in some parts of the world > which are far more price sensitive than the US. This includes parts > of Africa, South America and Asia. However, as far as I know, in > terms of the US and European markets, starter edition is only offered > on Netbooks. Hi Barry! You are confusing the Windows 7 Starter with Windows 7 Home Basic. As Windows 7 Home Basic "is available in emerging markets such as Bangladesh, Brazil, People's Republic of China, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Pakistan, the Philippines, and Thailand. It is not available in countries such as Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Ireland, Japan, The Netherlands, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, New Zealand, the United States, and the United Kingdom. Some Aero options are excluded along with several new features." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2 |