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From: David G. Imber on 10 Jul 2008 22:59
I'm using 7.0.1.0 in paid mode, but I've been having a really
annoying problem with Eudora forgetting my one IMAP account's password
every time I start a session.

I've checked this from multiple angles and can't find anything
to fix. It just started happening pretty much out of the blue (nothing
happens out of the blue, but suffice it to say this shouldn't be
happening).

It occurred to me today that if I installed the final paid
mode version, which in its release notes is supposed to offer better
IMAP handling, I might bulldozer away my problem.

But will it insist on my buying a paid registration? I mean, I
don't even know if there's anyone to pay anymore.

Thanks for any advice. DGI

From: David G. Imber on 11 Jul 2008 01:17
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:43:29 -0500, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote:

First I want to say that I really appreciate your taking time
with my incessant questioning.

>Does "SavePasswordText=xxxxxxxxxx" ever disappear from Eudora.ini?
>(or does the "xxxxxx" get dropped)?

Nope.
>
>If not, then Eudora is not "forgetting" password,
>but it may just not be accepted by server,
>or some other factor is at work (like network, protocol, proxy,
>program interaction, or other agent in the chain between you and your ISP).

I'm in contact with the sysadmin and he's fairly certain
nothing's changed on his side (or rather, he's completely certain and
I'm fairly confident about his abilities)

>
>How about Eudora's internal logging, where all "conversation"
>between client and server may be recorded and inspected,
>thus exposing many an issue by "catching it on videotape" :)

I have thus far not approached that. I suspect I won't grasp
its entire meaning, but I'll check it.


>Does your ISP have both POP and IMAP available?
>
>If so, does POP with "leave mail on server" log in correctly?

The IMAP account connects to a different network entirely. My
ISP's POP service is failure-free.


>Version 7.1.0.9 that now comes directly from eudora.com/download
>is slightly downgraded, in that it omits installing "x1lib.dll"
>(the module which implements paid-mode "X1" pre-indexed search,
>licensed from another company: x1.com),
>but if you install "over" prior version 7.0 or simply save a copy
>of that DLL from 7.0, then you will still have that feature,
>to whatever extent it can work with IMAP.

I've d/l'ed it and will give it a try.

Thanks again, DGI

From: John H Meyers on 11 Jul 2008 18:16
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:11:12 -0500:

> Only the people who read this newsgroup and don't post any messages
> are lurkers.

Some are barely ever heard from, except when the opportunity arises
to employ "keygens" to post registration codes for new names,
at which time they appear quite promptly, suggesting that
they were in fact "lurking" much of the rest of the time:

"To lurk is to lie in wait for someone or to hide about a place,
often without motion, for periods of time." [dictionary.com]

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From: John H Meyers on 12 Jul 2008 04:58
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:59:39 -0500:

> In Internet culture, a lurker is a person who reads
> discussions on a message board, newsgroup, chatroom, file
> sharing or other interactive system, but rarely participates.

Exactly -- they pop up immediately after a "how do I get
a registration code" inquiry, and otherwise generally fade
into another dimension, like a Cheshire Cat :)

A problem, as in Physics, to support any assertion
of the existence of purely "unmanifest" bodies, is that
if they never radiate any visible energy at all,
then how could you even prove that they exist? :)

Fictional: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Cat
Non-fictional: http://www.cheshirecat.com/ ;-)

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From: Han on 12 Jul 2008 06:51
"John H Meyers" <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote in
news:op.ud58jjqqnn735j(a)miu.edu:

> A problem, as in Physics, to support any assertion
> of the existence of purely "unmanifest" bodies, is that
> if they never radiate any visible energy at all,
> then how could you even prove that they exist? :)
>

Just subpoena the ISP's records <grin>.

--
Best regards
Han
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