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From: Han on 30 Dec 2009 08:28
"MrEos" <Reply(a)group.all> wrote in
news:T5A_m.86138$Wd1.65252(a)newsfe15.iad:

>
>
> I am about to migrate from XP to Win7 Home Premium 64bit. This
> requires reformatting and reinstalling all software. Also will be
> going from Qkn07 Premium to Qkn2010 Deluxe. Santa gave software this
> year.
>
> My questions are:
>
> (1) Should I install Qkn10 on the existing XP, then backup data, then
> use that data after migration? Or, is it sufficient to backup the
> current Qkn07 data and restore with Qkn10 after the migration?
>
> (2) Anything else I should do as part of this? What the heck does
> supervalidation do, anyway?
>
> (3) I currently use Outlook Express to read newsgroups. Win7 no longer
> provides it. What programs should I consider for nntp?
>
>
>
> "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:45Wdnba-iOs_SbzWnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d(a)posted.grandecom...
>
>
>> <snip>
>
>> If you have a specific question, please ask it - and tell us what
>> hardware and operating system (Win7 Basic x86 or Win7 Ultimate x64 or
>> something in between) you will be running, and which version of
>> Q2010.

I completely agree with all that Hank stated. Basically, backups and
copies are your friends. Are you going to keep your old computer for a
while? In that case you can keep comparing data on the 2 machines for a
while.

As far as the newsreader is concerned, I am partial to Xnews. It does
all I want it to do. Others use Agent in some form. There is a
newsgroup dedicated to newsreaders, I believe it is:
alt.comp.software.newsreaders
Hanging out there may give you ideas.
I believe there are also websites with info.
Lastly, there is info in alt.privacy.spyware for safekeeping your machine
(s). Jst stay away from the continuing pissing contests. David Lipman
is a good guy!! The "opposition" is a bunch of lowlifes.


--
Best regards
Han
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From: R. C. White on 30 Dec 2009 10:10
Hi, MrEos.

Basically, I agree with Hank and Han. But, as usual, I have a few comments
of my own.

"MrEos" <Reply(a)group.all> wrote in message
news:T5A_m.86138$Wd1.65252(a)newsfe15.iad...
>
> I am about to migrate from XP to Win7 Home Premium 64bit. This requires
> reformatting and reinstalling all software. Also will be going from Qkn07
> Premium to Qkn2010 Deluxe. Santa gave software this year.

Thanks for these details. Just a couple of questions remaining:
1. Is this all on a single computer? Or did Santa bring new hardware,
too?
2. Will you be dual-booting WinXP/Win7 for a while?

> My questions are:
>
> (1) Should I install Qkn10 on the existing XP, then backup data, then use
> that data after migration? Or, is it sufficient to backup the current
> Qkn07 data and restore with Qkn10 after the migration?

No, do not go through the extra steps of installing Q10 on WinXP. Just
install Q10 in Win7. Then Open your Q07 QDF file in Q10. Quicken will do
all the work of converting, including saving a copy of the old data in
Q07Files.

As for backup: This is why I asked about the hardware above. If Q10 is on
new hardware, then all your old files will still be available on your old
hardware until you get rid of that in some way. To transfer your data to
the new computer, just use Q07 on the old computer to Backup your QDF file
to a thumb drive, then have Q10 Open that file from that thumb drive.

(In my own single-computer dual-boot system, which I've often mentioned
here, I simply installed Q10 in Win7 into the same E:\QuickenW folder where
Q09 has always been, then Opened the Q09 QDF file in Q10 and let it do the
conversion. Within a few minutes, Q10 was up and running with all my data
back to 1990. ;<) But I know that idea won't work for most users.)


> (2) Anything else I should do as part of this? What the heck does
> supervalidation do, anyway?

I've Validated a few times, but agree with the others that this should be
done on a COPY of your live data, so that you have a backup...just in case.
And I don't recall that I ever Supervalidated; maybe once over 10 years ago
when I was having hard disk problems and had to ask Quicken Tech Support for
help and guidance.


> (3) I currently use Outlook Express to read newsgroups. Win7 no longer
> provides it. What programs should I consider for nntp?

Win7 does not come with ANY mail or news client at all. There are dozens of
programs, both good and bad, both free and not, out there. My choice is
Windows Live Mail, which is free for the download (along with any other of
the Windows Live Essentials that you might choose) from
http://download.live.com . WLM is certainly not the same program as OE, but
its interface is similar in many ways and an OE user can get comfy with it
pretty easily. I haven't even tried anything but OE/WM/WLM in recent years,
so I can't comment on any others.


RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc(a)grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)


> "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:45Wdnba-iOs_SbzWnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d(a)posted.grandecom...
>
>
>> <snip>
>
>> If you have a specific question, please ask it - and tell us what
>> hardware and operating system (Win7 Basic x86 or Win7 Ultimate x64 or
>> something in between) you will be running, and which version of Q2010.
>
>
From: B on 30 Dec 2009 12:45
If you don't already have one, investing in a large external USB
connected harddrive is going to be very useful before you begin this
migration. It is also the approach that Microsoft recommends. You can
create your Quicken backup on the external drive and also copy your "My
Documents" and a;; of your other data to the external drive.

After you have Windows 7 installed and all the updates applied you can
install Quicken 2010 and have it restore the backup from your external
drive. It will do the conversion. You can decide to rename it and save
it on your computer's harddrive then too.

Mozilla Thunderbird is a very popular, free e-mail program that also
handles newsgroups. It is what I have used for years.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/

On 12/29/2009 9:50 PM, MrEos wrote:
> I am about to migrate from XP to Win7 Home Premium 64bit. This requires
> reformatting and reinstalling all software. Also will be going from Qkn07
> Premium to Qkn2010 Deluxe. Santa gave software this year.
>
> My questions are:
>
> (1) Should I install Qkn10 on the existing XP, then backup data, then use
> that data after migration? Or, is it sufficient to backup the current Qkn07
> data and restore with Qkn10 after the migration?
>
> (2) Anything else I should do as part of this? What the heck does
> supervalidation do, anyway?
>
> (3) I currently use Outlook Express to read newsgroups. Win7 no longer
> provides it. What programs should I consider for nntp?
>
>
>
> "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:45Wdnba-iOs_SbzWnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d(a)posted.grandecom...
>
>
>> <snip>
>
>> If you have a specific question, please ask it - and tell us what hardware
>> and operating system (Win7 Basic x86 or Win7 Ultimate x64 or something in
>> between) you will be running, and which version of Q2010.
>
>
From: MrEos on 30 Dec 2009 22:07
Thanks for the tips. Probably will spend New Year's Day backing up
everything, reformatting the hard drive, and reinstalling. Hardware remains
the same, and all checks "OK" with the win7 upgrade advisor software. The
elves got confused on the external HD, so Santa failed to deliver. Nothing
explains Santa leaving Two copies of Qkn. Probably drunk. Again.

I'll report back anything noteworthy with respect to Qkn.



From: MrEos on 5 Jan 2010 21:41
Noteworthy in the migration was the loss of Quicken Home Inventory Manager
(not the free QHI program that comes with Qkn). QHIM would not install under
win 7 x64. Moreover, the data file is not compatible with QHI. Poop.


"MrEos" <Reply(a)group.all> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the tips. Probably will spend New Year's Day backing up
> everything, reformatting the hard drive, and reinstalling. Hardware
> remains the same, and all checks "OK" with the win7 upgrade advisor
> software. The elves got confused on the external HD, so Santa failed to
> deliver. Nothing explains Santa leaving Two copies of Qkn. Probably drunk.
> Again.
>
> I'll report back anything noteworthy with respect to Qkn.
>
>
>
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