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From: Alias on 24 Mar 2010 10:47 PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > The Upgrade CD cannot do what you want it to do. Yes, it can if one has a copy of 98, 98SE or Me handy. > Your old CD is tied to your old PC/motherboard. False. Show me where it mentions the word "motherboard" in the XP EULA and I'll buy you a Porsche. -- Alias
From: choro on 24 Mar 2010 11:28 Alias wrote: > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> The Upgrade CD cannot do what you want it to do. > > Yes, it can if one has a copy of 98, 98SE or Me handy. > >> Your old CD is tied to your old PC/motherboard. > > False. Show me where it mentions the word "motherboard" in the XP EULA > and I'll buy you a Porsche. I am sure any court will throw the case out if MS tried to sue an individual who used his Windows OS CD to reinstall the OS on a computer where he has had to replace the motherboard or indeed any other part of the computer that has broken down. And no, I don't approve of software piracy but neither do I approve of software companies acting like pirates. -- choro *****
From: Teneo on 24 Mar 2010 12:43 Back to the OP problem he was told by manufaturer that needs XP with min SP2 to install. With your old disk you can ' slipstream ' SP2 or better still goto SP3. Product I use for slipstreaming is ' nlite ', http://www.nliteos.com/ THis should helps answer all the legal quibbles... :-) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824125 "Mark Adams" <MarkAdams(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:10910063-AC1A-4C1C-B7B3-74BF90E45168(a)microsoft.com... > > > "choro" wrote: > >> choro wrote: >> > sgopus wrote: >> >> The license for an upgrade requires a qualifying media , not an >> >> installed product, if you have an old install cd of windows 98, or >> >> w2000, your old Xp svcpk 1, it might qualify, not sure. >> >> >> >> "Tom" wrote: >> >> >> >>> I want to know if "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with >> >>> SP2" CD is just upgrade to an existing XP home install or XP full >> >>> install with SP2? The CD box has even the product key. >> >>> >> >>> The reason I'm trying to figure out is I just purchased a new >> >>> motherboard and my old XP CD gives a blue screen with Stop error >> >>> when I try to install it. >> >>> I called the motherboard support and was told that its compatible >> >>> only with XP w/SP2 at least. My old XP CD doesn't have SP2. >> > >> > Good advice, sgopus. Let him try to install his upgrade CD which will >> > probably ask him to insert an older windows installation CD in the >> > drive. He can then -- when asked for -- temporarily insert his old >> > Windows CD (such as Win 98, Win 2000 or indeed his old WinXP CD) and >> > this will in all probability enable the installation. >> > >> > IF and this is a big IF he has a Windows 98 installation CD or some >> > such qualifying older version of Windows, he is in luck. Failing that >> > he can try his luck with his old WinXP installation disk temporarily >> > inserted into the drive. >> > >> > Of course he has got to start off the WinXP/SP2 Upgrade installation >> > first and temporarily insert his old Windows Installation CD when >> > asked for. >> > Failing that he would have to install an older version of Windows >> > first and THEN install his WinXP Upgrade on top of that. >> > >> > MS have already got enough money out of the poor chap. I don't see >> > why he has to buy yet another WinXP Installation disk. >> > >> > Fair is fair!!! If my Motherboard fails after 12 months, I see no >> > reason why I'd have to buy another operating system CD. Changing the >> > motherboard is NOT tantamount to installing the OS on a second >> > computer whether the computer came with a full retail version of >> > WinXP or the so-called OEM version. >> > My blood boils when a chap has already paid for his OS and is >> > expected to dish out yet more money to buy another OS installation CD >> > with a new licence. The old licence should be valid for a new >> > motherboard too. >> > Bear, this is for YOU.... >> > BOOOOOOO!!!!!! >> >> PS= I wonder, are MVPs on commission? ;-) >> >> A new motherboard shouldn't disqualify one from re-using his legally >> bought >> and owned Windows installation disk. Yes, I DO draw the line where piracy >> is >> involved but this is NOT piracy and the chap has already paid for the >> service TWICE! It is madness to expect him to dish out yet more money. >> > > Replacing a motherboard does not disqualify one from reusing his Windows > install disk if it's a retail disk. Do your research, Microsoft even > provides > instructions. See the following KB article: > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824125 > > If the OP bought bad hardware, or uses a branded install disk (Dell, HP, > Sony etc.) instead of a retail disk, or doesn't install the proper SATA > drivers for the mainboard during the install; well that's not Microsoft's > fault. It's the OP's > > Did you hear that choro? > >> Did you hear that Bear?! >> -- >> choro >> ***** >> >> >> . >>
From: Anna on 24 Mar 2010 14:35 "Tom" <Tom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:66F932E8-160D-4DF1-B5AB-5CAA17EE5D7F(a)microsoft.com... >I want to know if "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with SP2" CD >is > just upgrade to an existing XP home install or XP full install with SP2? > The CD box has even the product key. > > The reason I'm trying to figure out is I just purchased a new motherboard > and my old XP CD gives a blue screen with Stop error when I try to install > it. > I called the motherboard support and was told that its compatible only > with > XP w/SP2 at least. My old XP CD doesn't have SP2. Tom: If you're still around & haven't as yet resolved the issue... 1. It would be useful if you would indicate the make & model of your new motherboard. 2. Can we assume your system is *not* an OEM system, e.g., Dell, HP, Gateway, etc., and that your "old XP CD" is either a non-branded OEM type or a full retail Home edition? 3. Did you replace the old motherboard because it was defective? Or if it's not defective and still available, is there any chance you could reinstall it and have a bootable system? Or were there other problems involved with your "old" system? Anna
From: Mark Adams on 24 Mar 2010 14:42 "choro" wrote: > Alias wrote: > > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > >> The Upgrade CD cannot do what you want it to do. > > > > Yes, it can if one has a copy of 98, 98SE or Me handy. > > > >> Your old CD is tied to your old PC/motherboard. > > > > False. Show me where it mentions the word "motherboard" in the XP EULA > > and I'll buy you a Porsche. > > I am sure any court will throw the case out if MS tried to sue an individual > who used his Windows OS CD to reinstall the OS on a computer where he has > had to replace the motherboard or indeed any other part of the computer that > has broken down. > What's to sue? The OP is asking about an UPGRADE CD. These are retail, not OEM and the last I heard is that retail upgrade and retail full versions can be installed on ANY computer or mainboard; so long as they are installed on only ONE machine. The OP should do as "Teneo" suggested and slipstream SP2 into his original disk. Done it myself with my own upgrade disk and my original product key works just fine--- no piracy, no violation of the EULA, period. > And no, I don't approve of software piracy but neither do I approve of > software companies acting like pirates. > > -- > choro > ***** > > > . >
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