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From: Pegasus [MVP] on 30 Oct 2009 16:47
No, you don't "go around to 300 PCs" but if you are responsible for 300 of
them then it is imperative that you acquire skills in scripting and managing
them remotely. Administrators without such skills are ineffective. Here are
a couple of methods to resolve the current issue:
- Include a suitable "delete" instruction in your logon script.
- Execute a batch file from your console that gets the 300 machine names
from a text file, then deletes the offending file remotely.


"Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8B31DAFE-9C41-4331-9298-7C0D7BDE7CD7(a)microsoft.com...
> hello pegasus
> are u serious. u want me to go around 300 computers and delete the profile
> or rename the filename. this is far from being a solution. and why it
> happens
> at all the mandatory profile should be deleted on log off.
>


From: Ahmed on 31 Oct 2009 12:41
1-a delete instruction cannot be executed in logon script coz the user does
not have previlidges and you cannot delete the user profile while he is
logged in. you may say log off script and for the same reason the user does
not have enough previliges to delete the profile "you can try it" coz i
already tried it. it works if an admin logs in and logs out.
2- regarding the second part "batch file"
the computers are distributed on 2 buildings in different labs and the
problem happens when the users visit some website so i dont know when the
problem happens and in which computer and i cant run the batch file everytime
a user logs off.
i already have all those solutions that you talked about but they are not
effecient acctually. i have a dosen of scripts now but all needs admin rights
to run att log off.

"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

> No, you don't "go around to 300 PCs" but if you are responsible for 300 of
> them then it is imperative that you acquire skills in scripting and managing
> them remotely. Administrators without such skills are ineffective. Here are
> a couple of methods to resolve the current issue:
> - Include a suitable "delete" instruction in your logon script.
> - Execute a batch file from your console that gets the 300 machine names
> from a text file, then deletes the offending file remotely.
>
>
> "Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8B31DAFE-9C41-4331-9298-7C0D7BDE7CD7(a)microsoft.com...
> > hello pegasus
> > are u serious. u want me to go around 300 computers and delete the profile
> > or rename the filename. this is far from being a solution. and why it
> > happens
> > at all the mandatory profile should be deleted on log off.
> >
>
>
> .
>
From: Pegasus [MVP] on 31 Oct 2009 13:14
*** See below.

"Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:41EE6C94-F36D-4DF2-B51B-E14FB284721A(a)microsoft.com...
> 1-a delete instruction cannot be executed in logon script coz
> (=because) the user does not have previlidges and you cannot
> delete the user profile while he is logged in. you may say log off
> script and for the same reason the user does not have enough
> previliges to delete the profile "you can try it" coz (=because)
> i already tried it. it works if an admin logs in and logs out.
*** This is getting a little puzzling. If the user does not have
*** sufficient privileges to delete a file that resides in his own
*** profile folder, how did he create it in the first place? Is
*** it perhaps that the file has the read-only attribute set, which
*** needs to be removed before he can delete the file?

> 2- regarding the second part "batch file"
> the computers are distributed on 2 buildings in different labs and the
> problem happens when the users visit some website so i dont know when the
> problem happens and in which computer and i cant run the batch file
> everytime
> a user logs off.
*** You can insert an instruction like this one into the logon script:
*** if exist "%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url" del
""%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url"
*** This does not work because the file name is too long then subst.exe
*** can be used to shorten the path.

> i already have all those solutions that you talked about but they are not
> effecient acctually. i have a dosen of scripts now but all needs admin
> rights
> to run att log off.
*** I would not worry about the solutions being efficient or not, as
*** long as they are effective (=as long as they work).

> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> No, you don't "go around to 300 PCs" but if you are responsible for 300
>> of
>> them then it is imperative that you acquire skills in scripting and
>> managing
>> them remotely. Administrators without such skills are ineffective. Here
>> are
>> a couple of methods to resolve the current issue:
>> - Include a suitable "delete" instruction in your logon script.
>> - Execute a batch file from your console that gets the 300 machine names
>> from a text file, then deletes the offending file remotely.
>>
>>
>> "Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8B31DAFE-9C41-4331-9298-7C0D7BDE7CD7(a)microsoft.com...
>> > hello pegasus
>> > are u serious. u want me to go around 300 computers and delete the
>> > profile
>> > or rename the filename. this is far from being a solution. and why it
>> > happens
>> > at all the mandatory profile should be deleted on log off.
>> >
>>
>>
>> .
>>


From: Ahmed on 2 Nov 2009 03:34
helloo again
first of all i would like to thank you for the effort in trying to help me.
second i solved in anther way.
i put the delete script in the startup script instead of the log off script
and i removed the log off from shutdown menu so the user will choose to
restart always and i will be sure that the profile is deleted at start up and
it works.

the problem is that it is not only one file that cause the problem so i
cannot use

if exist "%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url" del

there are many website that cause the problem with files with different
extensions like url or jpg .... etc

best regards

"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

> *** See below.
>
> "Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:41EE6C94-F36D-4DF2-B51B-E14FB284721A(a)microsoft.com...
> > 1-a delete instruction cannot be executed in logon script coz
> > (=because) the user does not have previlidges and you cannot
> > delete the user profile while he is logged in. you may say log off
> > script and for the same reason the user does not have enough
> > previliges to delete the profile "you can try it" coz (=because)
> > i already tried it. it works if an admin logs in and logs out.
> *** This is getting a little puzzling. If the user does not have
> *** sufficient privileges to delete a file that resides in his own
> *** profile folder, how did he create it in the first place? Is
> *** it perhaps that the file has the read-only attribute set, which
> *** needs to be removed before he can delete the file?
>
> > 2- regarding the second part "batch file"
> > the computers are distributed on 2 buildings in different labs and the
> > problem happens when the users visit some website so i dont know when the
> > problem happens and in which computer and i cant run the batch file
> > everytime
> > a user logs off.
> *** You can insert an instruction like this one into the logon script:
> *** if exist "%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url" del
> ""%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url"
> *** This does not work because the file name is too long then subst.exe
> *** can be used to shorten the path.
>
> > i already have all those solutions that you talked about but they are not
> > effecient acctually. i have a dosen of scripts now but all needs admin
> > rights
> > to run att log off.
> *** I would not worry about the solutions being efficient or not, as
> *** long as they are effective (=as long as they work).
>
> > "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> No, you don't "go around to 300 PCs" but if you are responsible for 300
> >> of
> >> them then it is imperative that you acquire skills in scripting and
> >> managing
> >> them remotely. Administrators without such skills are ineffective. Here
> >> are
> >> a couple of methods to resolve the current issue:
> >> - Include a suitable "delete" instruction in your logon script.
> >> - Execute a batch file from your console that gets the 300 machine names
> >> from a text file, then deletes the offending file remotely.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8B31DAFE-9C41-4331-9298-7C0D7BDE7CD7(a)microsoft.com...
> >> > hello pegasus
> >> > are u serious. u want me to go around 300 computers and delete the
> >> > profile
> >> > or rename the filename. this is far from being a solution. and why it
> >> > happens
> >> > at all the mandatory profile should be deleted on log off.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
>
> .
>
From: Pegasus [MVP] on 2 Nov 2009 06:23
While I accept that there may be more than one web site that generates
exessively long file names, I do not think that there are many of them. They
tend to be malicious sites that want to prevent visitors from deleting the
files they generate. I suspect that some of your users visit sites that they
should not visit.

One way to deal with the issue is to run a script at logon time to identify
all temporary internet files with excessively long names. When you have the
list then you can examine it and discuss the issue with the users. The
script below will create such a list. Depending on the number of temporary
internet files, it might take half a minute or more to execute. Do not
retype the script - use copy and paste instead. The result will be visible
in c:\LongNames.txt

@echo off
set Len=240
if exist c:\LongNames.txt goto :eof
echo %date% %time:~0,5% %UserName% %ComputerName% > c:\LongNames.txt
set Scr=c:\TempVBS.vbs
set VB=echo^>^>%Scr%
cd 1>nul 2>%Scr%
%VB% Set oFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
%VB% Set oWshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
%VB% sFolder = oWshShell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings( _
%VB% "%UserProfile%\Local Settings\" _
%VB% ^& "Temporary Internet Files\Content.ie5")
%VB% Set oFolder = oFSO.GetFolder(sFolder)
%VB% For Each oSubFolder In oFolder.SubFolders
%VB% For Each oFile In oSubFolder.Files
%VB% sPath = oFile.path
%VB% if len(sPath) ^> %Len% then WScript.Echo sPath
%VB% Next
%VB% Next
cscript //nologo %Scr% >> c:\LongNames.txt
del %Scr%


"Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:362019CD-44F9-4603-B794-7638D190168B(a)microsoft.com...
> helloo again
> first of all i would like to thank you for the effort in trying to help
> me.
> second i solved in anther way.
> i put the delete script in the startup script instead of the log off
> script
> and i removed the log off from shutdown menu so the user will choose to
> restart always and i will be sure that the profile is deleted at start up
> and
> it works.
>
> the problem is that it is not only one file that cause the problem so i
> cannot use
>
> if exist "%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url" del
>
> there are many website that cause the problem with files with different
> extensions like url or jpg .... etc
>
> best regards
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> *** See below.
>>
>> "Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:41EE6C94-F36D-4DF2-B51B-E14FB284721A(a)microsoft.com...
>> > 1-a delete instruction cannot be executed in logon script coz
>> > (=because) the user does not have previlidges and you cannot
>> > delete the user profile while he is logged in. you may say log off
>> > script and for the same reason the user does not have enough
>> > previliges to delete the profile "you can try it" coz (=because)
>> > i already tried it. it works if an admin logs in and logs out.
>> *** This is getting a little puzzling. If the user does not have
>> *** sufficient privileges to delete a file that resides in his own
>> *** profile folder, how did he create it in the first place? Is
>> *** it perhaps that the file has the read-only attribute set, which
>> *** needs to be removed before he can delete the file?
>>
>> > 2- regarding the second part "batch file"
>> > the computers are distributed on 2 buildings in different labs and the
>> > problem happens when the users visit some website so i dont know when
>> > the
>> > problem happens and in which computer and i cant run the batch file
>> > everytime
>> > a user logs off.
>> *** You can insert an instruction like this one into the logon script:
>> *** if exist "%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url" del
>> ""%UserProfile%\...\Long File Name.url"
>> *** This does not work because the file name is too long then subst.exe
>> *** can be used to shorten the path.
>>
>> > i already have all those solutions that you talked about but they are
>> > not
>> > effecient acctually. i have a dosen of scripts now but all needs admin
>> > rights
>> > to run att log off.
>> *** I would not worry about the solutions being efficient or not, as
>> *** long as they are effective (=as long as they work).
>>
>> > "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> No, you don't "go around to 300 PCs" but if you are responsible for
>> >> 300
>> >> of
>> >> them then it is imperative that you acquire skills in scripting and
>> >> managing
>> >> them remotely. Administrators without such skills are ineffective.
>> >> Here
>> >> are
>> >> a couple of methods to resolve the current issue:
>> >> - Include a suitable "delete" instruction in your logon script.
>> >> - Execute a batch file from your console that gets the 300 machine
>> >> names
>> >> from a text file, then deletes the offending file remotely.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Ahmed" <Ahmed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8B31DAFE-9C41-4331-9298-7C0D7BDE7CD7(a)microsoft.com...
>> >> > hello pegasus
>> >> > are u serious. u want me to go around 300 computers and delete the
>> >> > profile
>> >> > or rename the filename. this is far from being a solution. and why
>> >> > it
>> >> > happens
>> >> > at all the mandatory profile should be deleted on log off.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> .
>> >>
>>
>>
>> .
>>


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