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From: FromTheRafters on 21 Feb 2010 21:27 "Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote in message news:210220101425540575%rag(a)nospam.techline.com... > In article <hlmd6k$rk4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, FromTheRafters > <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> Yes there has. >> >> >> http://threatinfo.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?vname=OSX_LEA >> P.A > > PEBCAK Irrelevant to your assertion: "There are not now nor have there been any OS X viruses in the wild." (that you edited out). [...] >> you seem to be implying that this trend will continue >> due to some sort of "security" built into the OS. [...] > Software maybe...but the operating system, no. I wasn't implying > anything...maybe there will be an infection in the future...but nine > years is a pretty good record, far better than any version of Windows. Indeed! > And it has nothing to do with market share; it has everything to do > with the basic design of the operating system. It has to do with *both* of those things.
From: Wolf K on 21 Feb 2010 23:33 FromTheRafters wrote: > "Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote in message > news:210220101425540575%rag(a)nospam.techline.com... >> In article <hlmd6k$rk4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, FromTheRafters >> <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> >>> Yes there has. >>> >>> >>> http://threatinfo.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?vname=OSX_LEA >>> P.A >> PEBCAK > > Irrelevant to your assertion: "There are not now nor have there been any > OS X viruses in the wild." (that you edited out). > > [...] > >>> you seem to be implying that this trend will continue >>> due to some sort of "security" built into the OS. > > [...] > >> Software maybe...but the operating system, no. I wasn't implying >> anything...maybe there will be an infection in the future...but nine >> years is a pretty good record, far better than any version of Windows. > > Indeed! > >> And it has nothing to do with market share; it has everything to do >> with the basic design of the operating system. > > It has to do with *both* of those things. > > It also has to do with the unreasonable hatred of MS and Windows IMO. Odd, since Stevie Joeboy is the real megalomaniac, not Willie Wallholes. Apple gets away with anti-competitive practices that make other companies drool with envy. cheers, wolf k. PS: I have 5-year-old Mac Powerbook, so I know whereof I speak. I don't use it much - the most overpriced, underpowered hardware I ever bought, with a pathetically insufficient variety and range of software, too. So why did I buy it? Because I was annoyed at Windows, is why. Dumbass reason, I know. But who said I always act reasonably? ;-) Good night all, wolf k.
From: Harry on 11 Mar 2010 07:35 On Feb 21, 11:33 pm, Wolf K <weki...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > FromTheRafters wrote: > > "Mr. Strat" <r...(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote in message > >news:210220101425540575%rag(a)nospam.techline.com... > >> In article <hlmd6k$rk...(a)news.eternal-september.org>, FromTheRafters > >> <erra...(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > > >>> Yes there has. > > >>>http://threatinfo.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?vnam.... > >>> P.A > >> PEBCAK > > > Irrelevant to your assertion: "There are not now nor have there been any > > OS X viruses in the wild." (that you edited out). > > > [...] > > >>> you seem to be implying that this trend will continue > >>> due to some sort of "security" built into the OS. > > > [...] > > >> Software maybe...but the operating system, no. I wasn't implying > >> anything...maybe there will be an infection in the future...but nine > >> years is a pretty good record, far better than any version of Windows. > > > Indeed! > > >> And it has nothing to do with market share; it has everything to do > >> with the basic design of the operating system. > > > It has to do with *both* of those things. > > It also has to do with the unreasonable hatred of MS and Windows IMO. > Odd, since Stevie Joeboy is the real megalomaniac, not Willie Wallholes. > Apple gets away with anti-competitive practices that make other > companies drool with envy. > > cheers, > wolf k. One must remember....Apple started as a COMPUTER company....get it? Hardware! Why would someone making their profits on hardware want something else to run on it other than software meant for that hardware. There are other software developers, right? What about M$ attempting to make their software proprietary to their OS?
From: Wolf K on 11 Mar 2010 10:18 Harry wrote: > On Feb 21, 11:33 pm, Wolf K <weki...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: [...] >> (Prevalence of malware on Windows] also has to do with the unreasonable hatred of MS and Windows IMO. >> Odd, since Stevie Joeboy is the real megalomaniac, not Willie Wallholes. >> Apple gets away with anti-competitive practices that make other >> companies drool with envy. >> >> cheers, >> wolf k. > > One must remember....Apple started as a COMPUTER company....get it? > Hardware! Why would someone making their profits on hardware want > something else to run on it other than software meant for that > hardware. Apple has become a systems-maker, and of course it doesn't like people messing with its system. And of course it wants to sell as much software as possible, at very high prices. Thing is, I can't "legally" install OS-X on anything other than an Apple-branded machine. Google "hackintosh" to find out how Apple tries to stop people from installing OS-X on their own hardware. (This is IMO shooting yourself in the marketing foot: if you want people to like Apple, you should make every effort to make it easy for them to have the Apple experience.) They also control the "apps" on the iPhone. Etc. > There are other software developers, right? What about M$ > attempting to make their software proprietary to their OS? Win7 will run on all current PC motherboards, and most older ones. MS wants you to buy their OS, and makes it easy to install on any hardware. Even on an Intel Mac, actually, if you know how to re-partition the disk. Which a PC user probably does, since PC mags are good at helping people do that kind of thing. And yes, MS tried to "integrate" their apps into the OS. Windows users were not amused. Mac users take what Apple gives them, and kiss the hem of SJ's garment in gratitude. Where MS and Apple differ IMO is that MS has realised that OS and software matters more than hardware. That's why MS is teaming with web service providers, and is trying to position itself as the "cloud" operator. To do this well, their OSs must be able to run any hardware, and that's what they are aiming to do. (The same realisation has led Google to produce its own browser and OS.) Apple is still hung up on integrated systems, but IMO that's an obsolescent concept. They tend to be a generation behind, anyhow: the iPad is by no means the first tablet computer, and is about to be eclipsed by the next generation of Blackberry. Macs _look_ cool, but are overpriced for what they do. Their strength (and it's a formidable one) is that Apple tunes and tweaks the system until it "just works." And as I've pointed out before, I did buy a Powerbook, and still have it. I could have had an equally capable Windows laptop for half the price or less. cheers, wolf k.
From: David Kaye on 11 Mar 2010 14:27
Harry <harryo43(a)gmail.com> wrote: >One must remember....Apple started as a COMPUTER company....get it? >Hardware! Why would someone making their profits on hardware want >something else to run on it other than software meant for that >hardware. Asus, the biggest motherboard maker, has no problem with other operating systems such as Linux running on their hardware. >There are other software developers, right? What about M$ >attempting to make their software proprietary to their OS? The difference is that Microsoft licenses their OS to any hardware manufacturer that wants it. Apple doesn't. For a brief moment they did license their OS to Mac clone makers but that stopped immediately when Steve Jobs came back on board. |