Wordperfect Justification and Line Breaks
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From: Terry Farrell on 15 Feb 2010 18:14 Oops! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message news:OsYJQ5orKHA.5356(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > No, "being" was a typo for "begin." > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > http://word.mvps.org > > "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:OH39e3mrKHA.4492(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Ah! It should be 'beginning' and not 'being'. >> >> As Macropod says, there must be spaces before the commas for them to >> break that way. If you must have spaces before the commas (a most unusual >> requirement), using non-breaking spaces before the commas may resolve >> your problem. >> >> Terry >> >> "macropod" <macropod(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:#acpDPmrKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> FWIW, I use WP Justification all the time and never have any problem >>>> with it, not have I heard any other users with problems with it either. >>> >>> Ditto. >>> >>> I suspect the lines starting with commas have spaces preceding the >>> commas on the previous line. If so, this has nothing to do with WP >>> justification and is just as likely to occur without it. >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers >>> macropod >>> [Microsoft MVP - Word] >>> >>> >>> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:edlHrImrKHA.1796(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>I just don't understand what you have said about breaking: "For example, >>>>I am frequently finding lines that being with commas." What does that >>>>mean? >>>> >>>> FWIW, I use WP Justification all the time and never have any problem >>>> with it, not have I heard any other users with problems with it either. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP >>>> >>>> <faceman28208(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:90c681a0-4bf5-42ce-91c0-f7660dbe4507(a)t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... >>>>> The WordPerfect line justification setting gets rid of Word's dreadful >>>>> spacing with justification. >>>>> >>>>> However, I am finding many cases where Word incorrectly breaks lines >>>>> with this setting enabled. For example, I am frequently finding lines >>>>> that being with commas. >>>>> >>>>> Is there any way to correct this problem? >>>> >>> >> >
From: Doug Robbins - Word MVP on 15 Feb 2010 20:56 or "that being" should have been "beginning" -- Hope this helps, Doug Robbins - Word MVP Please reply only to the newsgroups unless you wish to obtain my services on a paid professional basis. "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:OovRWSprKHA.3968(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Oops! > > Terry > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message > news:OsYJQ5orKHA.5356(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> No, "being" was a typo for "begin." >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> http://word.mvps.org >> >> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> news:OH39e3mrKHA.4492(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Ah! It should be 'beginning' and not 'being'. >>> >>> As Macropod says, there must be spaces before the commas for them to >>> break that way. If you must have spaces before the commas (a most >>> unusual requirement), using non-breaking spaces before the commas may >>> resolve your problem. >>> >>> Terry >>> >>> "macropod" <macropod(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:#acpDPmrKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> FWIW, I use WP Justification all the time and never have any problem >>>>> with it, not have I heard any other users with problems with it >>>>> either. >>>> >>>> Ditto. >>>> >>>> I suspect the lines starting with commas have spaces preceding the >>>> commas on the previous line. If so, this has nothing to do with WP >>>> justification and is just as likely to occur without it. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers >>>> macropod >>>> [Microsoft MVP - Word] >>>> >>>> >>>> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:edlHrImrKHA.1796(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>I just don't understand what you have said about breaking: "For >>>>>example, I am frequently finding lines that being with commas." What >>>>>does that mean? >>>>> >>>>> FWIW, I use WP Justification all the time and never have any problem >>>>> with it, not have I heard any other users with problems with it >>>>> either. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP >>>>> >>>>> <faceman28208(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:90c681a0-4bf5-42ce-91c0-f7660dbe4507(a)t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> The WordPerfect line justification setting gets rid of Word's >>>>>> dreadful >>>>>> spacing with justification. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, I am finding many cases where Word incorrectly breaks lines >>>>>> with this setting enabled. For example, I am frequently finding lines >>>>>> that being with commas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any way to correct this problem? >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
From: faceman28208 on 15 Feb 2010 21:59 Clarifications: 1. Word is formatting the text (sometimes) with line breaks immediately before commas. Word makes the comma the first character in the line. 2. There are no spaces (or any kind of white space) before the commas. 3. If I disable the WP spacing option, Word DOES NOT put the commas at the start of the line. Users encountering this get the choice of Word's default justification (Yuck) or starting lines with commas. 4. It does not happen all the time. (Annoying infrequency). 5. Word 2007.
From: Doug Robbins - Word MVP on 16 Feb 2010 00:06 Exactly what settings have you invoked in Word 2007? Where do you set the WP spacing option? -- Hope this helps, Doug Robbins - Word MVP Please reply only to the newsgroups unless you wish to obtain my services on a paid professional basis. <faceman28208(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:e7ef889f-1453-4c0f-b7e2-9ae923acbd0c(a)l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > Clarifications: > > 1. Word is formatting the text (sometimes) with line breaks > immediately before commas. Word makes the comma the first character in > the line. > 2. There are no spaces (or any kind of white space) before the > commas. > 3. If I disable the WP spacing option, Word DOES NOT put the commas at > the start of the line. Users encountering this get the choice of > Word's default justification (Yuck) or starting lines with commas. > 4. It does not happen all the time. (Annoying infrequency). > 5. Word 2007. > > > >
From: macropod on 16 Feb 2010 00:36 Hi Doug, Under 'Word Options|Advanced>Compatibility Options For>Layout Options', there's an option to justify text the way WordPerfect 6 does. Essentially, this allows the space between words to be reduced a bit and can result in a more compact document. With that option set, I can get a comma to start a new line by inserting a: 1. line/paragraph break; 2. standard space or hyphen; or 3. too many characters without spaces/hyphens to fit on the line, before it, just as you can without it. There may be other ways (eg involving non-keyboard characters or the positioning of shapes), but none of them represents something that happens in the ordinary course of creating a conventional document. And aside from the foregoing, it's not something I've ever seen with this setting (which I've used as my default for years - possibly for over a decade). -- Cheers macropod [Microsoft MVP - Word] "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr(a)REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message news:uKDvBXsrKHA.1352(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Exactly what settings have you invoked in Word 2007? Where do you set the WP spacing option? > > -- > Hope this helps, > > Doug Robbins - Word MVP > > Please reply only to the newsgroups unless you wish to obtain my services on > a paid professional basis. > > <faceman28208(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:e7ef889f-1453-4c0f-b7e2-9ae923acbd0c(a)l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> Clarifications: >> >> 1. Word is formatting the text (sometimes) with line breaks >> immediately before commas. Word makes the comma the first character in >> the line. >> 2. There are no spaces (or any kind of white space) before the >> commas. >> 3. If I disable the WP spacing option, Word DOES NOT put the commas at >> the start of the line. Users encountering this get the choice of >> Word's default justification (Yuck) or starting lines with commas. >> 4. It does not happen all the time. (Annoying infrequency). >> 5. Word 2007. >> >> >> >> >
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