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From: Jean-Baptiste Faure on 31 Jan 2010 03:13 Hi, Ok, but have read something from Oracle about OOo and Free Software ? No, only Cloud Computing which is, IMHO, a workaround to kill Free Software. The facts are : - 1 slide versus 100 000 000 downloads - Oracle does not know the right name of OpenOffice.org. Best regards. JBF Le 31.01.2010 01:04, Graham Lauder a �crit : >> Hi Cor, >> >> Thanks for your kind words and especially for your years of support for >> OOo. >> >> Let's keep on doing good things and talking about them. >> ;-) >> Liz >> >> > > I'd like to also echo Cors comments and add a few of my own. There has never been a > time when I haven't been proud to be part of the OOo community and proud of our > corporate partner. No matter the ill informed and parochial slings and arrows cast > in Suns direction they are the example of how a corporate partner can work with a > community. That is not to say it's perfect, it will probably never be because of > the obvious tensions between an open community and the necessities of corporate > governance but what has been obvious to me since the early days of the project, has > been the constant improvement in the connection between Sun and the community and > the obvious desire to see that improvement continue. > > It is good to see Larry talking about "Hiring Sun into Profit". Let's hope we see > some of the development load spread about in OOo/SO. I see a bright future. > > Good luck to all our team in Hamburg under the new regime. > > > Cheers > GL > > -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la p�rennit� de vos documents.
From: Cor Nouws on 31 Jan 2010 04:54 Hi Jean-Baptiste, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (31-01-10 09:13) > Ok, but have read something from Oracle about OOo and Free Software ? Yes, on their website you find an overview of all projects they participate in /drive. Quite a lot. > No, only Cloud Computing which is, IMHO, a workaround to kill Free Software. > > The facts are : > - 1 slide versus 100 000 000 downloads > - Oracle does not know the right name of OpenOffice.org. Looks even more like a wonder that we've Oracle's support? No, we have a good starting point. And if OpenOffice.org can show an even more attractive potential, I expect that Oracle will be an even better partner. Best, Cor -- >> Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org << Cor Nouws - nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact - Community Council member --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Jean-Baptiste Faure on 31 Jan 2010 05:40 Hi Cor, Le 31.01.2010 10:54, Cor Nouws a �crit : > > Hi Jean-Baptiste, > > Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (31-01-10 09:13) >> Ok, but have read something from Oracle about OOo and Free Software ? > > Yes, on their website you find an overview of all projects they > participate in /drive. Quite a lot. Perhaps, but Wednesday "Free Software" was not a keyword on the slide about OpenOffice.org. > >> No, only Cloud Computing which is, IMHO, a workaround to kill Free >> Software. >> >> The facts are : >> - 1 slide versus 100 000 000 downloads >> - Oracle does not know the right name of OpenOffice.org. > > Looks even more like a wonder that we've Oracle's support? No, we have > a good starting point. And if OpenOffice.org can show an even more > attractive potential, I expect that Oracle will be an even better > partner. I do not know if we have Oracle's support, it's too early to say. I know only that Oracle has OpenOffice.org and that Oracle has forgotten ".org" in the name of OpenOffice.org. And that Oracle has exchanged the roles of StarOffice and OpenOffice.org : with Sun, StarOffice was the non-Community edition based on OpenOffice.org; in other words, OOo plus something. From now, it seems that OpenOffice.org "Community Edition" will be StarOffice minus something. Minus what? Regards. -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la p�rennit� de vos documents. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Peter Junge on 1 Feb 2010 03:49
Hi, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > Hi, > > Ok, but have read something from Oracle about OOo and Free Software ? Free and Open Source Software is indeed an important thing, but the people behind it matter even more. After watching all the videos [1][2] currently available from Oracle on welcoming Sun, I am more than happy to learn, that there will be almost no layoffs but mostly hirings. [1] http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/044498 [2] http://www.oracle.com/events/productstrategy/index.html > No, only Cloud Computing which is, IMHO, a workaround to kill Free Software. Well I recommend to watch Larry Ellison's session at [1]. He makes some fun about 'cloud computing' clearly stating that's just a new buzzword for technologies already existing. Indeed Oracle isn't promoting FOSS very actively, but they are a large user, adopter, distributer and contributer with several FOSS products. > > The facts are : > - 1 slide versus 100 000 000 downloads OOo is not yet a core business of Oracle. They have been doing a lot of cooperations with Sun in the past, hence they are certainly prioritizing in merging this fields of business now. The good thing seems to be, that OOo has become an independent business unit within Oracle, retaining all the Sun stuff, hence the situation is we are still doing the same things with the same people here. What comes later? Who knows! But this was also an often discussed topic while Sun was the owner of OOo. > - Oracle does not know the right name of OpenOffice.org. Jonathan Schwartz also did use OpenOffice without .org quite often in his Sun blog (http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/), so this seems to be an persisting issue from pre-Oracle times. ;-) Best regards, Peter > > Best regards. > > JBF > > Le 31.01.2010 01:04, Graham Lauder a écrit : >>> Hi Cor, >>> >>> Thanks for your kind words and especially for your years of support for >>> OOo. >>> >>> Let's keep on doing good things and talking about them. >>> ;-) >>> Liz >>> >>> >> I'd like to also echo Cors comments and add a few of my own. There has never been a >> time when I haven't been proud to be part of the OOo community and proud of our >> corporate partner. No matter the ill informed and parochial slings and arrows cast >> in Suns direction they are the example of how a corporate partner can work with a >> community. That is not to say it's perfect, it will probably never be because of >> the obvious tensions between an open community and the necessities of corporate >> governance but what has been obvious to me since the early days of the project, has >> been the constant improvement in the connection between Sun and the community and >> the obvious desire to see that improvement continue. >> >> It is good to see Larry talking about "Hiring Sun into Profit". Let's hope we see >> some of the development load spread about in OOo/SO. I see a bright future. >> >> Good luck to all our team in Hamburg under the new regime. >> >> >> Cheers >> GL >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org |