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From: Pat Conover on 6 Jul 2010 21:27
"Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> powrwrap wrote:
>> After reading Pat Conover's account of bringing his aging Dim 4550 up
>> to 2 GB of RAM, I decided I should buy a 1 GB stick and install it
>> alongside my 512 MB stick. I'm pretty much set on buying a Crucial
>> stick from newegg.com for $41.99 but then I found this:
>>
>> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=1024DDR2700ECC-SAM-R&cat=RAM
>>
>> A 1 GB Samsung stick (refurbished) for $21.99.
>>
>> How can you have a refurbished memory stick? Someone bought it and it
>> was the wrong type for their motherboard and returned it?
>>
>> I bought my refurbished Netgear router from Geeks.com last winter and
>> it was sealed and packed in a new box. I'm quite satisfied with it.
>> The Samsung refurb stick only comes with a 30 day warranty whereas the
>> Crucial has a lifetime warranty.
>>
>> Would you gamble on a refurb memory stick?
>
> geeks.com are completely reputable and they are no dopes.
> the memory you refered to is ecc (error correction control) that is not
> meant for the dimension 4550. it is also less popular in general hence
> its low price and it is out of stock anyway... geeks does have used 1gb
> pc2700 184pin modules starting at $32 ($27 plus about $5 shipping).
> nothing wrong with these majors on minors from geeks but for just $5 more
> you can get a new major on major module from newegg (pqi brand - just like
> dell puts in machines themselves) with lifetime warranty and known
> compatibility.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141166

Chris, the only problem I saw with it is in the newer 2010 reviews, with a
lot of DOA sticks...and $8 to return ship. The 2009 reviews seemed to rate
it highly, no problems. Pat


From: Ben Myers on 6 Jul 2010 22:38
On 7/6/2010 8:43 PM, Pat Conover wrote:
> "Pat Conover"<public(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:i10iel$gsj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> "powrwrap"<powrwrap(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:54fe9c90-5578-43b2-a1c6-c72c08dc09e4(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>> After reading Pat Conover's account of bringing his aging Dim 4550 up
>>> to 2 GB of RAM, I decided I should buy a 1 GB stick and install it
>>> alongside my 512 MB stick. I'm pretty much set on buying a Crucial
>>> stick from newegg.com for $41.99 but then I found this:
>>>
>>> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=1024DDR2700ECC-SAM-R&cat=RAM
>>>
>>> A 1 GB Samsung stick (refurbished) for $21.99.
>>>
>>> How can you have a refurbished memory stick? Someone bought it and it
>>> was the wrong type for their motherboard and returned it?
>>>
>>> I bought my refurbished Netgear router from Geeks.com last winter and
>>> it was sealed and packed in a new box. I'm quite satisfied with it.
>>> The Samsung refurb stick only comes with a 30 day warranty whereas the
>>> Crucial has a lifetime warranty.
>>>
>>> Would you gamble on a refurb memory stick?
>>
>> I assume you are talking about a Dimension 4550. That's ECC memory, and
>> according to Dell docs won't work in a Dim 4550.
>>
>> "DDR 333 (non-ECC) only on computers with a 533-MHz system clock speed,
>> DDR 266 (non-ECC) on computers with either a 400- or a 533-MHz system
>> clock speed"
>>
>> Otherwise, you should know well before the end of the 30-day warranty if
>> its good or not, run Memtest86, etc and I would have gone for it. I have
>> bought used RAMBUS from eBay, but you can't go wrong with Crucial for main
>> stream memory though. Pat
> Forgot to add, that Dell was wrong about the Dim 4550 capacity at 1GB, so
> maybe ECC would work, but probably not if the other memory is non-ECC.
> Although, I thought it would just then run both sticks as non-ECC. Others
> will know more, Pat
>
>

No ECC in a 4550. None! No ECC in desktop systems, unless they are
exceptional. HP "workstations", the equivalent of the Dimension 8400,
take both ECC and non-ECC. That's why they call it a workstation.

If someone gives you some ECC non-registered non-buffered memory for
free, you can try it in the 4550. But don't spend any money on ECC.

Dell was "wrong" about 2GB of memory in the 4550, because they failed to
update their documentation when 1GB sticks became available... Ben Myers
From: Christopher Muto on 6 Jul 2010 22:52
Pat Conover wrote:
> "Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:JqqdnUD8x9afSa7RnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net...
>> powrwrap wrote:
>>> After reading Pat Conover's account of bringing his aging Dim 4550 up
>>> to 2 GB of RAM, I decided I should buy a 1 GB stick and install it
>>> alongside my 512 MB stick. I'm pretty much set on buying a Crucial
>>> stick from newegg.com for $41.99 but then I found this:
>>>
>>> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=1024DDR2700ECC-SAM-R&cat=RAM
>>>
>>> A 1 GB Samsung stick (refurbished) for $21.99.
>>>
>>> How can you have a refurbished memory stick? Someone bought it and it
>>> was the wrong type for their motherboard and returned it?
>>>
>>> I bought my refurbished Netgear router from Geeks.com last winter and
>>> it was sealed and packed in a new box. I'm quite satisfied with it.
>>> The Samsung refurb stick only comes with a 30 day warranty whereas the
>>> Crucial has a lifetime warranty.
>>>
>>> Would you gamble on a refurb memory stick?
>> geeks.com are completely reputable and they are no dopes.
>> the memory you refered to is ecc (error correction control) that is not
>> meant for the dimension 4550. it is also less popular in general hence
>> its low price and it is out of stock anyway... geeks does have used 1gb
>> pc2700 184pin modules starting at $32 ($27 plus about $5 shipping).
>> nothing wrong with these majors on minors from geeks but for just $5 more
>> you can get a new major on major module from newegg (pqi brand - just like
>> dell puts in machines themselves) with lifetime warranty and known
>> compatibility.
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141166
>
> Chris, the only problem I saw with it is in the newer 2010 reviews, with a
> lot of DOA sticks...and $8 to return ship. The 2009 reviews seemed to rate
> it highly, no problems. Pat
>

don't read too much into those newegg reviews. most people that write
reviews do so to complain about a product so it is common to find
negative comments. secondly the quality of the reviewer is always
suspect as evident by such inane statements as "does not work in compaqs
and most dells". i wonder how many "doa" complaints were due to the
users not installing the module correctly and how many were installed in
overclocked machines etc. thirdly newegg censors reviews and even
refuses to publish some reviews entirely - so the truly damming
information will never be seen on newegg by potential customers. pqi is
a major memory manufacturer and has an excellent reputation and lifetime
warranty. not sure where you got that $8 to return ship as many of the
comments regarding return for replacement mentioned newegg paid for
shipping. but it does not matter one way or another what you or the op
might buy. plenty of other brands out there if you prefer including
mushkin that is actually less money if you can stomach a rebate...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146197

From: Tom Lake on 7 Jul 2010 08:05

"powrwrap" <powrwrap(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:54fe9c90-5578-43b2-a1c6-c72c08dc09e4(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> After reading Pat Conover's account of bringing his aging Dim 4550 up
> to 2 GB of RAM, I decided I should buy a 1 GB stick and install it
> alongside my 512 MB stick. I'm pretty much set on buying a Crucial
> stick from newegg.com for $41.99 but then I found this:
>
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=1024DDR2700ECC-SAM-R&cat=RAM
>
> A 1 GB Samsung stick (refurbished) for $21.99.
>
> How can you have a refurbished memory stick? Someone bought it and it
> was the wrong type for their motherboard and returned it?
>
> I bought my refurbished Netgear router from Geeks.com last winter and
> it was sealed and packed in a new box. I'm quite satisfied with it.
> The Samsung refurb stick only comes with a 30 day warranty whereas the
> Crucial has a lifetime warranty.
>
> Would you gamble on a refurb memory stick?

To me, the extra $20.00 is money well spent for a new item with lifetime warranty.

Tom Lake

From: William R. Walsh on 7 Jul 2010 10:27
Hi!

> How can you have a refurbished memory stick? Someone bought it and it
> was the wrong type for their motherboard and returned it?

Most probably yes...or it just didn't work in their system. Sometimes
it happens.

> Would you gamble on a refurb memory stick?

Sure, especially if it costs less than a new one. Computer memory is
simply very reliable and if it works now, it's likely to be working
years from now.

Buy it, run Memtest/86 on it with the module installed (preferably by
itself) in your computer for a few hours or overnight, and if it
passes, everything should be fine.

William
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