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From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 25 Apr 2010 11:37 From this description, your line is clearly a paragraph border. The article to which Doug referred you (http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm) does explain how to remove such borders. I discovered last night, upon further investigation, that there is in fact a yellow (not gray) border above the footer, and it can be removed, as Doug instructed, by turning off the Top Border or selecting No Border. I posted to this effect last night, but several of my posts last night and this morning have been eaten by the server because I evidently used a word the filters don't like. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2E74176C-9EE3-4295-8176-E8EC54E0A0AA(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after > reading > your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar > with > lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use > repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen. > > When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the > title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the > accent > bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can > click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an > actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar > and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines > with > an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This > reminds > me of sizing a row in a table. > > "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: > >> In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select >> pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then >> be >> able to select and delete the line. >> >> Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete >> because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about >> it?” at: >> >> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm >> >> >> -- >> Hope this helps. >> >> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my >> services on a paid consulting basis. >> >> Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com >> >> "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:E7788282-4D3F-447B-9D01-E18D9266EFDF(a)microsoft.com... >> > Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info. >> > I'm >> > using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page >> > Number -> Bottom of Page -> Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to >> > create >> > a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - >> > it's >> > really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't >> > afford >> > to >> > lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish >> > to >> > PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it >> > right >> > for efficient long term use. >> >
From: katko on 25 Apr 2010 13:25 My word was true. This border did NOT appear from repeated hyphens or underscores. That was the help someone gave me earlier. This appeared when I inserted my border. I understand you may have been frustrated when your posts were not showing up, but there is no need to imply my word was not true. I used to do tech support so I know the temptation to think the user does not know what he or she is doing. It stinks to now be the user and have that thought about you. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been > obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I discovered > last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I posted > then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you said you > knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically' appear > when you use repeated hyphens or underscores." > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Fairhope, AL USA > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so > all may benefit. > > > > "katko" wrote: > > > Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after reading > > your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar with > > lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use > > repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen. > > > > When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the > > title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the accent > > bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can > > click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an > > actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar > > and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines with > > an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This reminds > > me of sizing a row in a table. > > > > "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: > > > > > In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select > > > pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then be > > > able to select and delete the line. > > > > > > Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete > > > because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about > > > it?” at: > > > > > > http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my > > > services on a paid consulting basis. > > > > > > Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com > > > > > > "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:E7788282-4D3F-447B-9D01-E18D9266EFDF(a)microsoft.com... > > > > Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info. > > > > I'm > > > > using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page > > > > Number -> Bottom of Page -> Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to > > > > create > > > > a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - it's > > > > really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't afford > > > > to > > > > lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish to > > > > PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it > > > > right > > > > for efficient long term use. > > >
From: katko on 25 Apr 2010 13:34 THAT'S IT! I was looking everywhere for that - that's why I kept describing it as being like part of a table! (Note: this is not the only place I've posted.) It's a border! I was stuck on the "accent bar" title of the page number I chose; I thought it was something different. I've tested with a new document - this border is inserted automatically with the footer I chose. Thank you thank you thank you. Curiosity no longer has to kill this KAT. By the way...this is my first significant project on Word 2007. I have a TON of experience with the old Word and also with PowerPoint 2007. I have used a border, but only when I had inserted it myself - I could not remember where/what it was. (Fatigue from this being the end of a long project did not help.) I've hardly ever used footers at all in Word...never really had to. More than my document looking awesome, I learned SO much! Thank you again. "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: > With the selection in the word Page in the foote, rGo to the Home tab of the > Ribbon and from the Paragraph Section, click on the Borders pulldown and you > will see that the Top Border item has an Orange Background, indicating that > a Top Border is applied to the paragraph. Click on that item to remove the > border or select the No Border item. > > -- > Hope this helps. > > Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my > services on a paid consulting basis. > > Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com > > "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:0D4A6DFB-56CD-4E30-9A91-F0395943D528(a)microsoft.com... > > So you inserted it and there was no light gray accent bar horizontally > > above > > it?! There is in mine and it's quite stubborn. Maybe it's somehow > > something > > set up for all footers or something. Desperate to finish this project, I > > covered it with a white box and inserted the portrait page numbering on > > those > > landscape pages. I'm still curious to know how to get rid of it, but my > > workaround should hold I guess. > > > > As for the word page after it...thanks for making me doubt the numbering I > > put in my entire book! ha ha. I have section page numbers, though, and I > > think it looks pretty good. I'll run it by the others who are > > proofing/providing input. Thanks for responding! I'm even more curious > > now. > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > > > >> I've inserted the Accent Bar 2 page number, and the only bar I see is a > >> pipe > >> character between the page number and the word "Page." I have to say I > >> don't > >> understand this format in the first place: why have the word "Page" > >> *after* > >> the number and why formatted as yellow? It's a dead-stupid design in the > >> first place. > >> > >> -- > >> Suzanne S. Barnhill > >> Microsoft MVP (Word) > >> Words into Type > >> Fairhope, Alabama USA > >> http://word.mvps.org > >> > >> "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:2E74176C-9EE3-4295-8176-E8EC54E0A0AA(a)microsoft.com... > >> > Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after > >> > reading > >> > your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar > >> > with > >> > lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you > >> > use > >> > repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen. > >> > > >> > When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in > >> > the > >> > title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the > >> > accent > >> > bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I > >> > can > >> > click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select > >> > an > >> > actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the > >> > i-bar > >> > and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines > >> > with > >> > an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This > >> > reminds > >> > me of sizing a row in a table. > >> > > >> > "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: > >> > > >> >> In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select > >> >> pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should > >> >> then > >> >> be > >> >> able to select and delete the line. > >> >> > >> >> Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't > >> >> delete > >> >> because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do > >> >> about > >> >> it?” at: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Hope this helps. > >> >> > >> >> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my > >> >> services on a paid consulting basis. > >> >> > >> >> Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com > >> >> > >> >> "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:E7788282-4D3F-447B-9D01-E18D9266EFDF(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> > Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important > >> >> > info. > >> >> > I'm > >> >> > using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) > >> >> > Page > >> >> > Number -> Bottom of Page -> Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need > >> >> > to > >> >> > create > >> >> > a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - > >> >> > it's > >> >> > really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't > >> >> > afford > >> >> > to > >> >> > lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, > >> >> > publish > >> >> > to > >> >> > PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do > >> >> > it > >> >> > right > >> >> > for efficient long term use. > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> . > >>
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 25 Apr 2010 13:49 It's still true, however, that the article Doug referenced applies to a "line" that can't be removed and is a border. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D4DCCD5B-65EF-4E50-9A5E-B63D540BB61F(a)microsoft.com... > My word was true. This border did NOT appear from repeated hyphens or > underscores. That was the help someone gave me earlier. This appeared > when > I inserted my border. I understand you may have been frustrated when your > posts were not showing up, but there is no need to imply my word was not > true. I used to do tech support so I know the temptation to think the > user > does not know what he or she is doing. It stinks to now be the user and > have > that thought about you. > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > >> From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been >> obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I >> discovered >> last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I posted >> then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you said >> you >> knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically' appear >> when you use repeated hyphens or underscores." >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Fairhope, AL USA >> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup >> so >> all may benefit. >> >> >> >> "katko" wrote: >> >> > Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after >> > reading >> > your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar >> > with >> > lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you >> > use >> > repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen. >> > >> > When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in >> > the >> > title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the >> > accent >> > bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I >> > can >> > click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select >> > an >> > actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the >> > i-bar >> > and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines >> > with >> > an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This >> > reminds >> > me of sizing a row in a table. >> > >> > "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: >> > >> > > In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select >> > > pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should >> > > then be >> > > able to select and delete the line. >> > > >> > > Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't >> > > delete >> > > because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do >> > > about >> > > it?” at: >> > > >> > > http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Hope this helps. >> > > >> > > Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my >> > > services on a paid consulting basis. >> > > >> > > Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com >> > > >> > > "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> > > news:E7788282-4D3F-447B-9D01-E18D9266EFDF(a)microsoft.com... >> > > > Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important >> > > > info. >> > > > I'm >> > > > using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) >> > > > Page >> > > > Number -> Bottom of Page -> Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need >> > > > to >> > > > create >> > > > a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - >> > > > it's >> > > > really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't >> > > > afford >> > > > to >> > > > lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, >> > > > publish to >> > > > PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do >> > > > it >> > > > right >> > > > for efficient long term use. >> > > >
From: katko on 25 Apr 2010 15:13 I would recommend as a professional that you use a discussion group like this to discuss and answer questions, not argue lest you give your users a bad taste for your product. If you want to win, okay. YOU WIN. Whatever it is you're trying to prove, consider it proven and you are the victor. As for me...I have a book that's done correctly now thanks to Doug. I'd rather be me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > It's still true, however, that the article Doug referenced applies to a > "line" that can't be removed and is a border. > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > http://word.mvps.org > > "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:D4DCCD5B-65EF-4E50-9A5E-B63D540BB61F(a)microsoft.com... > > My word was true. This border did NOT appear from repeated hyphens or > > underscores. That was the help someone gave me earlier. This appeared > > when > > I inserted my border. I understand you may have been frustrated when your > > posts were not showing up, but there is no need to imply my word was not > > true. I used to do tech support so I know the temptation to think the > > user > > does not know what he or she is doing. It stinks to now be the user and > > have > > that thought about you. > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > > > >> From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been > >> obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I > >> discovered > >> last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I posted > >> then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you said > >> you > >> knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically' appear > >> when you use repeated hyphens or underscores." > >> > >> -- > >> Suzanne S. Barnhill > >> Microsoft MVP (Word) > >> Fairhope, AL USA > >> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup > >> so > >> all may benefit. > >> > >> > >> > >> "katko" wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after > >> > reading > >> > your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar > >> > with > >> > lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you > >> > use > >> > repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen. > >> > > >> > When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in > >> > the > >> > title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the > >> > accent > >> > bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I > >> > can > >> > click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select > >> > an > >> > actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the > >> > i-bar > >> > and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines > >> > with > >> > an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This > >> > reminds > >> > me of sizing a row in a table. > >> > > >> > "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: > >> > > >> > > In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select > >> > > pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should > >> > > then be > >> > > able to select and delete the line. > >> > > > >> > > Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't > >> > > delete > >> > > because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do > >> > > about > >> > > it?” at: > >> > > > >> > > http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Hope this helps. > >> > > > >> > > Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my > >> > > services on a paid consulting basis. > >> > > > >> > > Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com > >> > > > >> > > "katko" <katko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> > > news:E7788282-4D3F-447B-9D01-E18D9266EFDF(a)microsoft.com... > >> > > > Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important > >> > > > info. > >> > > > I'm > >> > > > using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) > >> > > > Page > >> > > > Number -> Bottom of Page -> Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need > >> > > > to > >> > > > create > >> > > > a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - > >> > > > it's > >> > > > really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't > >> > > > afford > >> > > > to > >> > > > lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, > >> > > > publish to > >> > > > PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do > >> > > > it > >> > > > right > >> > > > for efficient long term use. > >> > > > > > > . >
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