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From: Leonard Grey on 7 Jan 2010 14:24 What "processes" and "disk operations" are you referring to, and how are they related to Windows Search? I'm still waiting to hear what method of organization Windows Search finds "logical and easy to understand" and how you arrived at that conclusion. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Tim Meddick wrote: > So you don't imagine that bad practices such as having 1000's of files > in the root dir, negatively affects processes involving disk operations? > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > > > > > "Leonard Grey" <l.grey(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:OGg$Aa8jKHA.6096(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> You think that Windows Search will have an easier time if you >> "re-arrange files and folders into a more logical and easy to >> understand structure"? >> >> What method of organization do you suspect Windows Search finds "more >> logical and easy to understand"...and how did you arrive at that >> conclusion? >> >> --- >> Leonard Grey >> Errare humanum est >> >> Tim Meddick wrote: >>> I support what "thanatoid" advises in his response, however, there >>> are some things you can do to curb XP from getting "tied up" in >>> operations involving searches. >>> >>> Attempt to - deleting, where possible, any older, redundant and >>> outdated files. >>> >>> Perform a defragmentation on all hard-drives - and repeat regularly. >>> >>> And another thing that may well have a bearing on your issue - could >>> have been caused by the resident portion of either an anti-virus or >>> anti-malware program. >>> >>> Next time you do a search, while it is in progress, open Task Manager >>> and see what other programs start to eat up memory as the search >>> progresses. >>> >>> If, as in the case of Windows Defender on my system, you see another >>> program getting carried away with itself, then this could well >>> account for a "freeze" or lock-up if you try to abort the procedure. >>> >>> If this is what is happening on your system, you should temporarily >>> deactivate these programs for the time it takes to complete any >>> search operations... >>> >>> == >>> >>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "OREALLY" <oreally(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:eBL6Yr1jKHA.1864(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Whenever I STOP a search while it is searching the computer freezes >>>> up and I have to go to task manager to end the search. Any reason or >>>> repair for this? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Oreally >>> >
From: Tim Meddick on 7 Jan 2010 14:55 You won't even admit that it *is* bad practice to stuff 1000s of files into the root of the system drive, will you? I don't see why I should continue defending my advice to someone who is seemingly intent on trashing anything I have to say. If there is something I said that is factually incorrect or harmful to anyone, I will have no hesitation in entertaining any criticisms levelled against me. == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "Leonard Grey" <l.grey(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:%23v$iH88jKHA.6096(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > What "processes" and "disk operations" are you referring to, and how are they > related to Windows Search? > > I'm still waiting to hear what method of organization Windows Search finds "logical > and easy to understand" and how you arrived at that conclusion. > --- > Leonard Grey > Errare humanum est > > Tim Meddick wrote: >> So you don't imagine that bad practices such as having 1000's of files in the root >> dir, negatively affects processes involving disk operations? >> >> == >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >> >> >> >> >> "Leonard Grey" <l.grey(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:OGg$Aa8jKHA.6096(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> You think that Windows Search will have an easier time if you "re-arrange files >>> and folders into a more logical and easy to understand structure"? >>> >>> What method of organization do you suspect Windows Search finds "more logical and >>> easy to understand"...and how did you arrive at that conclusion? >>> >>> --- >>> Leonard Grey >>> Errare humanum est >>> >>> Tim Meddick wrote: >>>> I support what "thanatoid" advises in his response, however, there are some >>>> things you can do to curb XP from getting "tied up" in operations involving >>>> searches. >>>> >>>> Attempt to - deleting, where possible, any older, redundant and outdated files. >>>> >>>> Perform a defragmentation on all hard-drives - and repeat regularly. >>>> >>>> And another thing that may well have a bearing on your issue - could have been >>>> caused by the resident portion of either an anti-virus or anti-malware program. >>>> >>>> Next time you do a search, while it is in progress, open Task Manager and see >>>> what other programs start to eat up memory as the search progresses. >>>> >>>> If, as in the case of Windows Defender on my system, you see another program >>>> getting carried away with itself, then this could well account for a "freeze" or >>>> lock-up if you try to abort the procedure. >>>> >>>> If this is what is happening on your system, you should temporarily deactivate >>>> these programs for the time it takes to complete any search operations... >>>> >>>> == >>>> >>>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "OREALLY" <oreally(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>> news:eBL6Yr1jKHA.1864(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Whenever I STOP a search while it is searching the computer freezes up and I >>>>> have to go to task manager to end the search. Any reason or repair for this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Oreally >>>> >>
From: Nil on 7 Jan 2010 15:24 On 07 Jan 2010, "OREALLY" <oreally(a)comcast.net> wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize: > Whenever I STOP a search while it is searching the computer > freezes up and I have to go to task manager to end the search. Any > reason or repair for this? Maybe there is some file system corruption that Search is choking on. It might be a good idea to run CHKDSK... but better back up your data and system first, in case it decides to repair your disk into an unbootable condition.
From: thanatoid on 7 Jan 2010 18:16 "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> wrote in news:uLuVZx8jKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > So you don't imagine that bad practices such as having > 1000's of files in the root dir, negatively affects > processes involving disk operations? Not to mention having an 800GB drive with a single c: partition... Or, should you be one of the few clued into the wonder that is partitioning, searching through ALL your partitions at once? (Which of course should never be necessary if your partitioning was done with some forethought and good design...)
From: Twayne on 7 Jan 2010 18:24
In news:OprN3N9jKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl, Tim Meddick <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> typed: > You won't even admit that it *is* bad practice to stuff 1000s of > files into the root of the system drive, will you? > > I don't see why I should continue defending my advice to someone who > is seemingly intent on trashing anything I have to say. > > If there is something I said that is factually incorrect or harmful > to anyone, I will have no hesitation in entertaining any criticisms > levelled against me. Umm, no point, unexplained, unverifiable information doesn't count as factually incorrect? While I pretty much respect your posts, this one seems to just make work for, and raise more questions while answering nothing for the OP. Regards, Twayne` > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > > > > > "Leonard Grey" <l.grey(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:%23v$iH88jKHA.6096(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> What "processes" and "disk operations" are you referring to, and how >> are they related to Windows Search? >> >> I'm still waiting to hear what method of organization Windows Search >> finds "logical and easy to understand" and how you arrived at that >> conclusion. --- >> Leonard Grey >> Errare humanum est >> >> Tim Meddick wrote: >>> So you don't imagine that bad practices such as having 1000's of >>> files in the root dir, negatively affects processes involving disk >>> operations? == >>> >>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Leonard Grey" <l.grey(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:OGg$Aa8jKHA.6096(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> You think that Windows Search will have an easier time if you >>>> "re-arrange files and folders into a more logical and easy to >>>> understand structure"? What method of organization do you suspect >>>> Windows Search finds >>>> "more logical and easy to understand"...and how did you arrive at >>>> that conclusion? --- >>>> Leonard Grey >>>> Errare humanum est >>>> >>>> Tim Meddick wrote: >>>>> I support what "thanatoid" advises in his response, however, >>>>> there are some things you can do to curb XP from getting "tied >>>>> up" in operations involving searches. >>>>> >>>>> Attempt to - deleting, where possible, any older, redundant and >>>>> outdated files. Perform a defragmentation on all hard-drives - and >>>>> repeat >>>>> regularly. And another thing that may well have a bearing on your >>>>> issue - >>>>> could have been caused by the resident portion of either an >>>>> anti-virus or anti-malware program. Next time you do a search, while >>>>> it is in progress, open Task >>>>> Manager and see what other programs start to eat up memory as the >>>>> search progresses. If, as in the case of Windows Defender on my >>>>> system, you see >>>>> another program getting carried away with itself, then this could >>>>> well account for a "freeze" or lock-up if you try to abort the >>>>> procedure. If this is what is happening on your system, you should >>>>> temporarily deactivate these programs for the time it takes to >>>>> complete any search operations... == >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "OREALLY" <oreally(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:eBL6Yr1jKHA.1864(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Whenever I STOP a search while it is searching the computer >>>>>> freezes up and I have to go to task manager to end the search. >>>>>> Any reason or repair for this? Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Oreally -- -- Often you'll find excellent advice on a newsgroup. Before you use that advice though, consider the ramifications of it being wrong or even dangerous; how important IS that to you? ALWAYS verify and confirm ANY advice from a newsgroup! |