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From: XP Guy on 14 Apr 2010 09:06 Jerry top-poasted: > An OEM CD can only be installed once - it is tied forever to the > first system it is installed on and you've chnaged motherboard , > etc which makes it a 'new' system. Total hogwash. Copy the contents of your OEM XP cd to the hard drive and install it from the hard drive, but first you need to modify this file: setupp.ini Read the following: http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/setuppini.html ==================== The Pid value is what we're interested in. What's there now looks like a standard default. There are special numbers that determine if it's a retail, oem, or volume license edition. First, we break down that number into two parts. The first five digits determines how the CD will behave, ie is it a retail cd that lets you clean install or upgrade, or an oem cd that only lets you perform a clean install? The last three digits determines what CD key it will accept. You are able to mix and match these values. For example you could make a WinXP cd that acted like a retail cd, yet accepted OEM keys. Now, for the actual values. Remember the first and last values are interchangable, but usually you'd keep them as a pair: Retail = 51882 335 Volume License = 51883 270 OEM = 82503 OEM So if you wanted a retail CD that took retail keys, the last line of your setupp.ini file would read: Pid=51882335 And if you wanted a retail CD that took OEM keys, you'd use: Pid=51882OEM ====================== Here's more examples of Pid numbers. These are taken from the "System Builder" version of XP-pro (specifically the "2002" version). The System Builder CD is what small or medium-sized PC builders use when assembing systems from scratch. This is from an XP-Pro SP1 CD with files dates March 31, 2003: [Pid] ExtraData = 786F687170637175716954806365EF Pid=55274OEM This is the same product, except with SP2. These numbers are the same even for different file or release dates (and even for the last version which included SP3): - Aug 4, 2004 (sp2) - Feb 28, 2006 (sp2) - April 14, 2008 (sp3) [Pid] ExtraData = 786F687170637175716954806365EF Pid=76487OEM
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 15 Apr 2010 08:50 "XP Guy" <XP(a)Guy.com> wrote in message news:4BC5BDDD.9E5B3F29(a)Guy.com... > Jerry top-poasted: > >> An OEM CD can only be installed once - it is tied forever to the >> first system it is installed on and you've chnaged motherboard , >> etc which makes it a 'new' system. > > Total hogwash. > > Copy the contents of your OEM XP cd to the hard drive and install it > from the hard drive, but first you need to modify this file: > > setupp.ini > > Read the following: > > http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/setuppini.html > <snip> Technically correct, but a violation of the licensing agreement. What you are advocating is piracy. -- Zaphod Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's something big and sinister going on in the world. Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the universe gets that.
From: XP Guy on 15 Apr 2010 21:02 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Read the following: > > > > http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/setuppini.html > > Technically correct, but a violation of the licensing agreement. No. The licensing agreement obligates you to only install and use the software if you have a valid license (and by extension - a product key that you are using according to the terms of the license). How you actually obtain a CD containing the code, or any modifications you make to the installation files, has no bearing on the license or the EULA. There are *many* guides and alternate setup schemes (unattended installation setups) that make significant modifications to the installation files and the installation process. > What you are advocating is piracy. Piracy (in the case of Windows OS software) requires that someone ends up installing and running Windoze in such a way that circumvents Microsoft's desire or requirement that they buy a license to use the software. If someone ends up installing XP and running it on their computer in such a way that denies Microsoft a license sale, then you can say that the software was "pirated". It just so happens that Microsoft no longer offers XP licenses for sale, so Microsoft is denying itself the opportunity to sell the license - so no pirating is even possible for software products that are no longer offered for sale.
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 20 Apr 2010 09:06
"XP Guy" <XP(a)Guy.com> wrote in message news:4BC7B71B.5876C625(a)Guy.com... > Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > >> > Read the following: >> > >> > http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/setuppini.html >> >> Technically correct, but a violation of the licensing agreement. > > No. > Yes. The OP upgraded the motherboard in his PC and was using an OEM version of Windows. The OEM Windows EULA does not allow this, so what the OP is doing is technically a violation of the licensing agreement, and therefore, piracy. > The licensing agreement obligates you to only install and use the > software if you have a valid license (and by extension - a product > key > that you are using according to the terms of the license). Per the EULA, a valid licence for the OEM Windows versions only exists for the original PC it is installed on. The license does allow replacement of parts for repairs, but not for upgrades. > > How you actually obtain a CD containing the code, or any > modifications > you make to the installation files, has no bearing on the license or > the > EULA. I was not referring to modification of the files as a violation of the license, but that the OEM licence is tied to the original hardware. > > There are *many* guides and alternate setup schemes (unattended > installation setups) that make significant modifications to the > installation files and the installation process. > >> What you are advocating is piracy. > > Piracy (in the case of Windows OS software) requires that someone > ends > up installing and running Windoze in such a way that circumvents > Microsoft's desire or requirement that they buy a license to use the > software. > Which, per the EULA, is exactly what is happening when one installs and OEM version of Windows on different hardware than it was originally installed on, barring repairs. > If someone ends up installing XP and running it on their computer in > such a way that denies Microsoft a license sale, then you can say > that > the software was "pirated". > > It just so happens that Microsoft no longer offers XP licenses for > sale, > so Microsoft is denying itself the opportunity to sell the license - > so > no pirating is even possible for software products that are no > longer > offered for sale. Though this may be a position that can be upheld from an ethical or moral standpoint, it cannot be upheld from a legal standpoint. Until there is a law, or legal precedent, that allows "abandonware" to be distributed/copied/installed in that way, it is illegal to do so and is piracy. Not that any individuals are ever likely to get caught out by this technicality, nevertheless it exists. -- Zaphod "The best Bang since the Big One" - Eccentrica Gallumbits |