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From: Mike Barnes on 15 Jun 2010 02:42 geoff <troll(a)uk-diy.org>: >In message <hv69p7$b0e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50 ><BillW50(a)aol.kom> writes >>In news:eN5ntnVr7oFMFwAy(a)demon.co.uk, >>geoff typed on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:19:55 +0100: >>>> I do regret buying two copies of Windows 7 that still sit up on the >>>> shelf unopened. As I was running two copies of Windows 7 Ultimate RC >>>> for about a year and I was unimpressed with it. >>> >>> Better send one to me then >> >>Really? You like Windows 7? After using it for about a year, I saw it >>only capable of running 95% of what I want to do vs. Windows XP which >>runs 100% of what I want. And Windows 7 eats up lots of CPU time just >>while you are doing nothing. Windows XP when you are doing nothing, the >>CPU is actually at or near idle. And running something that is very CPU >>intensive like games, always runs slower under Windows 7 than it does >>under Windows XP. So I don't see Windows 7 as any big deal and I can see >>why some want to downgrade their Vista and Windows 7 machines. And I >>don't blame them one bit. ;-) >> > >Wouldn't touch for my work machines, but, using VM , having bought a >new webcam, etc, it sort of works well enough > >even turnpike is almost OK > >but I agree > >XP is rockandroll Interesting. I just made a spare partition and put Windows 7 onto it, so I can now boot XP or 7. As time permits I'm intending to configure the Win7 partition and install my (numerous) apps on it, with the eventual aim of moving to Win7 full time. After a day or so at it I find that I'm looking at Win7's new features, finding them useless or worse, and expending almost all of my effort on making Win7 work like XP does. And I'm wondering why I'm bothering. The way I'm thinking now, I'll not waste any more time on Windows 7 until I buy a new PC, when I'd be doing all that configuring and installing anyway. -- Mike Barnes
From: BillW50 on 15 Jun 2010 10:19 In news:hv7e7p$bmp$3(a)news.datemas.de, dennis(a)home typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:37:56 +0100: > "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message > news:hv69p7$b0e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> In news:eN5ntnVr7oFMFwAy(a)demon.co.uk, >> geoff typed on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:19:55 +0100: >>>> I do regret buying two copies of Windows 7 that still sit up on the >>>> shelf unopened. As I was running two copies of Windows 7 Ultimate >>>> RC for about a year and I was unimpressed with it. >>> >>> Better send one to me then >> >> Really? You like Windows 7? After using it for about a year, I saw >> it only capable of running 95% of what I want to do vs. Windows XP >> which runs 100% of what I want. And Windows 7 eats up lots of CPU >> time just while you are doing nothing. Windows XP when you are doing >> nothing, the CPU is actually at or near idle. And running something >> that is very CPU intensive like games, always runs slower under >> Windows 7 than it does under Windows XP. So I don't see Windows 7 as >> any big deal and I can see why some want to downgrade their Vista >> and Windows 7 machines. And I don't blame them one bit. ;-) > > Are you sure you actually have looked at windows 7? > None of what you say is true for me or anyone else I know with > windows 7. You can send me the other win7 if you don't want it. ;-) What kind of computers are you running Windows 7 on? I ran Windows 7 Ultimate RC on three different computers. One on a Gateway MX6124, a Gateway M465e, and an Asus 702 netbook. All three uses Celeron CPUs with 2GB of installed RAM. All three has Intel graphics (915 and 945). And only this machine here could run Aero. And it was always the same. Much higher CPU usage and much higher average core temperatures (up by 20�F) than it was when compared to XP on the same machines. If you didn't monitor the CPU usage and/or the core temperatures. I can see how somebody wouldn't even know that Windows 7 is working very hard in the background. As Windows 7 is very clever in appearances. But that is all it is, just an illusion. Even the minimum specs for high powered PC games are higher for Vista and Windows 7 than they are for Windows XP. That should tell you something wrong right there. As why would you need a faster processor and massive more memory for the same game if Windows 7 really didn't slow things down? And as for the two unopened Windows 7 copies, right now they are holding my books up straight on the shelf. And I am thinking the DVDs might also make some pretty nifty drink coasters too. ;-) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
From: dave on 15 Jun 2010 10:37 On 14/06/2010 17:41, Roger Mills wrote: > On 14/06/2010 17:15, dave wrote: > >> >> Wife is ADC for the town's Beaver Scout Groups and has to send minutes >> from the many meetings she has to attend, to many Beaver Scout Colonies. >> >> When she bought herself a new fancy computer, she got complaints from >> group Scout leaders that they couldn't open the minutes she was sending >> them. Needless to say, she was using Word 2003. There is a problem with >> later versions of word that they can't communicate with earlier versions. >> >> I showed her how to make a RTF document and there have been no problems >> since. >> >> Dave > > Are you sure you don't mean Word 2007? AFAIK, all versions of word from > 97 through 2003 used the same format - but 2007 defaults to docx format. > nevertheless, it's a trivial matter to tell it to save in 97-2003 format > - then everyone should be able to receive it. I know there is a work round, but try telling that to a total computer illiterate :-( My easiest escape route was to teach her how to change the file format to RTF. This is a computer user that has to ask how she attaches something to an e mail, be it a text file, or even worse, a photo that wants re-sizing. Regards Dave
From: Andy Champ on 15 Jun 2010 14:33 BillW50 wrote: > > What kind of computers are you running Windows 7 on? I ran Windows 7 > Ultimate RC on three different computers. One on a Gateway MX6124, a > Gateway M465e, and an Asus 702 netbook. All three uses Celeron CPUs with > 2GB of installed RAM. All three has Intel graphics (915 and 945). And > only this machine here could run Aero. > <snip> You don't need Aero. I put Win7 on my old laptop (1gig ram, Pentium M 1.8GHz) and find it better than XP. Primarily because I don't have to reboot it every time I want to use the wireless. It's got some nice picture handling stuff too. Vista, OTOH, sucks. Andy
From: BillW50 on 15 Jun 2010 15:34
In news:HoadnSDCFJoXWorRnZ2dnUVZ7vmdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk, Andy Champ typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:33:46 +0100: > BillW50 wrote: >> >> What kind of computers are you running Windows 7 on? I ran Windows 7 >> Ultimate RC on three different computers. One on a Gateway MX6124, a >> Gateway M465e, and an Asus 702 netbook. All three uses Celeron CPUs >> with 2GB of installed RAM. All three has Intel graphics (915 and >> 945). And only this machine here could run Aero. >> > <snip> > > You don't need Aero. > > I put Win7 on my old laptop (1gig ram, Pentium M 1.8GHz) and find it > better than XP. Primarily because I don't have to reboot it every > time I want to use the wireless. It's got some nice picture handling > stuff too. > Vista, OTOH, sucks. > > Andy Yes bad drivers can make or break an OS. But you don't need to change the OS to fix that problem. And I am not sure I follow you about the nice picture handling features. As it didn't seem very special to me. And all of that security under Windows 7 drives me nuts. As Windows 7 doesn't want you to have control over itself. But it rather control the user instead. And Windows 7 does stupid things like grabbing My Documents off of my flash drive and merging it with My Documents on the hard drive. Makes it very confusing. Worse, it also renames folders too on it's own. Like it grabbed My Favorites on my XP partition and renamed it to just Favorites. Unbelievable! It is like Windows 7 was designed to use by idiots. You make something so idiot proof, only an idiot would want to use it. That is were it is heading Andy. Maybe you like that idea, but I sure don't. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3 |