From: felmon on
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:54:53 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

> [...]
>> so how are they for intensive writing?
>>
>> Felmon
>
> Typing on the smaller keyboard depends a lot on the individual. Some
> people adapt to it really well right away. Some others require some more
> time. Although I would think most people shouldn't have much trouble
> after a week or two.

ok. the ones I have seen make me uneasy; I'd want it for real work though
I've been considering using one as a kind of little mail-server at home.
(got an old HP Pavillion doing that duty now.)

I am probably going to hold off though until the prices come down more.

> The other problem that some complain about is the small screen. Some
> have problems viewing such a small area. This doesn't get better with
> time. Although better glasses might work.

the screens haven't bothered me that much and shouldn't at all with my
relatively new glasses -- didn't know the world was so clear!

Felmon
From: Ulli Reinders on
Am 13.06.2010 21:43, schrieb Melanie Sands:

> Wer normalerweise auf so geistreiche Newsgroups postet,
> die sich MAMPF nennen, oder FORSALE, oder ach-wie-tolle
> LAPTOPS etc. f�r den ist schon der Name Shakespeare
> eine etwas zu intellektuelle Herausforderung,
> kann ich echt nachvollziehen.
>
> Da n�tzen Eure "plonks" nicht viel, besser w�re gewesen,
> Ihr h�ttet vorher mal "weitere Optionen"angeklickt,
> und gesehen, wohin Ihr Eure "Plonks" und Eure "Wandelgeister"
> �berall hinschickt.
> Alles klar?
>
> Ganz abgesehen davon, dass wir hier bei humanities etwas alt
> sind f�r Euch - wir sind n�mlich hier alle �lter als 17.

Herr, schick Hirn vom Himmel!


UR
--
Der kl�gste Krieger ist der, der niemals k�mpfen mu�.
Sun Tzu (chinesischer General und Milit�rstratege,
�Die Kunst des Krieges�)
From: Melanie Sands on
On Jun 17, 8:46 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote:
> Innews:2fdbdb27-0c24-4e47-bce7-c4449cb63a8c(a)a30g2000yqn.googlegroups.com,
> Melanie Sands typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:28:22 -0700 (PDT):
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 15 Jun., 20:07, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote:
> >> Bob Villa typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:48:59 -0700 (PDT):
>
> >>> Thanks for the kind words (in English)!
>
> > You're welcome. I was nasty to the German guy, it's my fault they
> > got all ticked off.
>
> >>> I agree about netbooks...if they were $150 I might think about it.
> >>> For $300 you can get a Toshiba with Windows 7 and 3gigs of ram (not
> >>> the everyday price, mind you!)
>
> > I know, and I'm flat broke. 150.oo would be the right price.
> > But my normal laptop - an Acer Aspire 5315
> > (with VISTA on it - is there no mercy for people like me?! No wonder
> > I'm bitchy!) - is so HEAVY, and I have it at the office (I'm self-
> > employed
> > with my husband) and take it home from time to time and it just tears
> > my arm out at the shoulder...
>
> > BillW50 wrote:
> >> Oh I love the little guys! So much, I bought five of them. They are
> >> so light and quiet and runs for many hours on battery. I even
> >> connected one up to an external monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. And
> >> most of the time, you forget the brains is really just a tiny
> >> netbook only using 10 watts of power. And carrying them around all
> >> day is no big deal. And as a test, I only used one single netbook
> >> for two months straight. And I didn't miss a bigger machine one bit.
> >> And these things are really rugged too. And the best part is they
> >> are so Star Trek like. There isn't much of a down side to them at
> >> all.
>
> > Aaarrgh! Why did you have to tell me this! I need a netbook to
> > scribble my short stories on. I go by bus and write into a
> > pupil's paper notebook with an ink pen, and then I have type
> > it all up, and I would so want a netbook that is light and
> > and fits into my little black leather rucksack, she said
> > sobbing quietly into her handkerchief, but I'm broke at
> > the moment as although I live in Switzerland
> > I do NOT belong to UBS management
> > with their huge bonuses...
> > BUT my birthday is coming up, so there is still hope...!
>
> Oh sorry to hear that Melanie. I really dislike typing in something
> already printed or handwritten too. If we were very good friends, I
> wouldn't mind lending you one of mine. But you can find used netbooks on
> eBay for around $150.
>
> >> So what will topple netbook sales? How about people going nuts over
> >> the next innovation of netglasses. Where the glasses are the screen
> >> and the mouse follows your eye movements. And you blink your left
> >> eye for a left mouse click, right for the right one. Heck I would
> >> buy one of those. Maybe five of them. ;-)
>
> > What about people with wall eyes? You know, one eye looks left, one
> > right...
>
> > Melanie
>
> I am sure you could find all of that under the Control Panel properties.
> ;-)
>
> --
> Bill
> Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But would a wall-eyed guy even FIND the control panel? It would have
to
be a sort of fold-out left-and-right-winged version.
By the way,I bought a laptop. It cost 600 francs. ($550)
The cheapest netbook in the cheapest store here cost
379 francs. Then I bought Office home and student
2010 (I still had 2003 version) online for 60 francs less than the
store price, and
it's amazing! I've never had "publisher" on my PC before!
It is sooooo cool! Me and my husband have our own business,
and the things I'll be able to do with "publisher"!
I have the laptop at home, and just continue to use my own paper
notebook and ink pen in the bus...
When the netbooks cost 150 and less, I'll buy one, though.
Cheers guys, have a lovely summer!

Melanie
From: Mark Houlsby on
On 6 July, 13:43, Melanie Sands <Melanie_Sa...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 8:46 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Innews:2fdbdb27-0c24-4e47-bce7-c4449cb63a8c(a)a30g2000yqn.googlegroups.com,
> > Melanie Sands typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:28:22 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > > On 15 Jun., 20:07, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote:
> > >> Bob Villa typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:48:59 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > >>> Thanks for the kind words (in English)!
>
> > > You're welcome. I was nasty to the German guy, it's my fault they
> > > got all ticked off.
>
> > >>> I agree about netbooks...if they were $150 I might think about it.
> > >>> For $300 you can get a Toshiba with Windows 7 and 3gigs of ram (not
> > >>> the everyday price, mind you!)
>
> > > I know, and I'm flat broke. 150.oo would be the right price.
> > > But my normal laptop - an Acer Aspire 5315
> > > (with VISTA on it - is there no mercy for people like me?! No wonder
> > > I'm bitchy!) - is so HEAVY, and I have it at the office (I'm self-
> > > employed
> > > with my husband) and take it home from time to time and it just tears
> > > my arm out at the shoulder...
>
> > > BillW50 wrote:
> > >> Oh I love the little guys! So much, I bought five of them. They are
> > >> so light and quiet and runs for many hours on battery. I even
> > >> connected one up to an external monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. And
> > >> most of the time, you forget the brains is really just a tiny
> > >> netbook only using 10 watts of power. And carrying them around all
> > >> day is no big deal. And as a test, I only used one single netbook
> > >> for two months straight. And I didn't miss a bigger machine one bit.
> > >> And these things are really rugged too. And the best part is they
> > >> are so Star Trek like. There isn't much of a down side to them at
> > >> all.
>
> > > Aaarrgh! Why did you have to tell me this! I need a netbook to
> > > scribble my short stories on. I go by bus and write into a
> > > pupil's paper notebook with an ink pen, and then I have type
> > > it all up, and I would so want a netbook that is light and
> > > and fits into my little black leather rucksack, she said
> > > sobbing quietly into her handkerchief, but I'm broke at
> > > the moment as although I live in Switzerland
> > > I do NOT belong to UBS management
> > > with their huge bonuses...
> > > BUT my birthday is coming up, so there is still hope...!
>
> > Oh sorry to hear that Melanie. I really dislike typing in something
> > already printed or handwritten too. If we were very good friends, I
> > wouldn't mind lending you one of mine. But you can find used netbooks on
> > eBay for around $150.
>
> > >> So what will topple netbook sales? How about people going nuts over
> > >> the next innovation of netglasses. Where the glasses are the screen
> > >> and the mouse follows your eye movements. And you blink your left
> > >> eye for a left mouse click, right for the right one. Heck I would
> > >> buy one of those. Maybe five of them. ;-)
>
> > > What about people with wall eyes? You know, one eye looks left, one
> > > right...
>
> > > Melanie
>
> > I am sure you could find all of that under the Control Panel properties..
> > ;-)
>
> > --
> > Bill
> > Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> But would a wall-eyed guy even FIND the control panel? It would have
> to
> be a sort of fold-out left-and-right-winged version.
> By the way,I bought a laptop. It cost 600 francs. ($550)
> The cheapest netbook in the cheapest store here cost
> 379 francs. Then I bought Office home and student
> 2010 (I still had 2003 version) online for 60 francs less than the
> store price, and
> it's amazing! I've never had "publisher" on my PC before!
> It is sooooo cool! Me and my husband have our own business,
> and the things I'll be able to do with "publisher"!
> I have the laptop at home, and just continue to use my own paper
> notebook and ink pen in the bus...
> When the netbooks cost 150 and less, I'll buy one, though.

They already do, if you import one.

> Cheers guys, have a lovely summer!
>
> Melanie

"Summer"? What's that? (A confused English guy)

Mark
From: BillW50 on
In
news:885d4f52-7371-4f0f-8745-f0f05ffe1f78(a)y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
Melanie Sands typed on Tue, 6 Jul 2010 05:43:11 -0700 (PDT):
> On Jun 17, 8:46 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>> Innews:2fdbdb27-0c24-4e47-bce7-c4449cb63a8c(a)a30g2000yqn.googlegroups.com,
>> Melanie Sands typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:28:22 -0700 (PDT):
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 15 Jun., 20:07, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>>> Bob Villa typed on Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:48:59 -0700 (PDT):
>>
>>>>> Thanks for the kind words (in English)!
>>
>>> You're welcome. I was nasty to the German guy, it's my fault they
>>> got all ticked off.
>>
>>>>> I agree about netbooks...if they were $150 I might think about it.
>>>>> For $300 you can get a Toshiba with Windows 7 and 3gigs of ram
>>>>> (not the everyday price, mind you!)
>>
>>> I know, and I'm flat broke. 150.oo would be the right price.
>>> But my normal laptop - an Acer Aspire 5315
>>> (with VISTA on it - is there no mercy for people like me?! No wonder
>>> I'm bitchy!) - is so HEAVY, and I have it at the office (I'm self-
>>> employed
>>> with my husband) and take it home from time to time and it just
>>> tears my arm out at the shoulder...
>>
>>> BillW50 wrote:
>>>> Oh I love the little guys! So much, I bought five of them. They are
>>>> so light and quiet and runs for many hours on battery. I even
>>>> connected one up to an external monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. And
>>>> most of the time, you forget the brains is really just a tiny
>>>> netbook only using 10 watts of power. And carrying them around all
>>>> day is no big deal. And as a test, I only used one single netbook
>>>> for two months straight. And I didn't miss a bigger machine one
>>>> bit. And these things are really rugged too. And the best part is
>>>> they are so Star Trek like. There isn't much of a down side to
>>>> them at all.
>>
>>> Aaarrgh! Why did you have to tell me this! I need a netbook to
>>> scribble my short stories on. I go by bus and write into a
>>> pupil's paper notebook with an ink pen, and then I have type
>>> it all up, and I would so want a netbook that is light and
>>> and fits into my little black leather rucksack, she said
>>> sobbing quietly into her handkerchief, but I'm broke at
>>> the moment as although I live in Switzerland
>>> I do NOT belong to UBS management
>>> with their huge bonuses...
>>> BUT my birthday is coming up, so there is still hope...!
>>
>> Oh sorry to hear that Melanie. I really dislike typing in something
>> already printed or handwritten too. If we were very good friends, I
>> wouldn't mind lending you one of mine. But you can find used
>> netbooks on eBay for around $150.
>>
>>>> So what will topple netbook sales? How about people going nuts over
>>>> the next innovation of netglasses. Where the glasses are the screen
>>>> and the mouse follows your eye movements. And you blink your left
>>>> eye for a left mouse click, right for the right one. Heck I would
>>>> buy one of those. Maybe five of them. ;-)
>>
>>> What about people with wall eyes? You know, one eye looks left, one
>>> right...
>>
>>> Melanie
>>
>> I am sure you could find all of that under the Control Panel
>> properties. ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Bill
>> Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> But would a wall-eyed guy even FIND the control panel? It would have
> to be a sort of fold-out left-and-right-winged version.
> By the way,I bought a laptop. It cost 600 francs. ($550)
> The cheapest netbook in the cheapest store here cost
> 379 francs. Then I bought Office home and student
> 2010 (I still had 2003 version) online for 60 francs less than the
> store price, and
> it's amazing! I've never had "publisher" on my PC before!
> It is sooooo cool! Me and my husband have our own business,
> and the things I'll be able to do with "publisher"!
> I have the laptop at home, and just continue to use my own paper
> notebook and ink pen in the bus...
> When the netbooks cost 150 and less, I'll buy one, though.
> Cheers guys, have a lovely summer!

Hi Melanie! I haven't created much in PowerPoint, just use it to view
PowerPoint files. Although MS has a free viewer for that anyway. I just
like MS Office mainly for Word and Excel (I don't like OpenOffice and
StarOffice isn't much better).

I do have publisher, but I never installed it. So you like that one, eh?

They do sell (hard to find netbooks) at around $150. But most of them
are the crappy Windows CE versions with almost no memory, etc in them.
Although they should be fine for all of your typing you want to do. So
that would be a good thing. And if they ever break, I don't think you
will find parts available or even spare batteries. So this would be bad
too.

A better idea IMHO is that you can buy like new netbooks (used of
course) for around this price range. And sometimes refurbished netbooks
in this price range too. This is where I would look if it were I. Sure
beats using pen and paper and retyping everything once again. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2