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From: John McWilliams on 7 Feb 2010 01:45 John wrote: > Mike it appears you may be correct. No, Mike *is* correct. Whether or not it in fact turns out to be bad RAM. Please re-read what he wrote, reply to that thread, and refrain from top posting. -- lsmft
From: Mike Rosenberg on 7 Feb 2010 11:54 Dan <me(a)here.net> wrote: > > Mike it appears you may be correct. I sure hope that Mem Test does not > > find anything wrong with the logic board RAM. If its logic board RAM > > then its time for a new Mac. > > Memory test programs are not always reliable. The best test is to > replace the RAM. If the problem goes away then it was the RAM, > regardless of what the test program claims. Yep, and I already told him that in another thread. He even responded to that post and again said he'd continue running MemTest, which of course he's already run, along with the Apple Hardware Test, the repair shop ran tests, too. -- My latest dance performance <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_9pudbFisE> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: Jolly Roger on 7 Feb 2010 23:06 In article <jwolf6589-ACE456.22404907022010(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > In article <me-8E2FC5.11145007022010(a)news.supernews.com>, > Dan <me(a)here.net> wrote: > > > In article > > <jwolf6589-67693B.00274107022010(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, > > John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Mike it appears you may be correct. I sure hope that Mem Test does not > > > find anything wrong with the logic board RAM. If its logic board RAM > > > then its time for a new Mac. > > > > Memory test programs are not always reliable. The best test is to > > replace the RAM. If the problem goes away then it was the RAM, > > regardless of what the test program claims. > > The problems did not go away and I had the RAM removed for a while. Son > its serious hardware or software. You can't run a computer with NO RAM. The problems are likely with the RAM that you didn't remove. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Don Bruder on 8 Feb 2010 02:41 In article <jollyroger-5036C3.22062007022010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > In article > <jwolf6589-ACE456.22404907022010(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, > John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > > > In article <me-8E2FC5.11145007022010(a)news.supernews.com>, > > Dan <me(a)here.net> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > <jwolf6589-67693B.00274107022010(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, > > > John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Mike it appears you may be correct. I sure hope that Mem Test does not > > > > find anything wrong with the logic board RAM. If its logic board RAM > > > > then its time for a new Mac. > > > > > > Memory test programs are not always reliable. The best test is to > > > replace the RAM. If the problem goes away then it was the RAM, > > > regardless of what the test program claims. > > > > The problems did not go away and I had the RAM removed for a while. Son > > its serious hardware or software. > > You can't run a computer with NO RAM. The problems are likely with the > RAM that you didn't remove. I just noticed/realized we're trying to help out "It's gotta be whatever I say it is going wrong "Bible John" - I've had him killfiled for ages, but it looks like he's morphed again, and I hadn't noticed that until just now. I've never been able to decide if he's just hopelessly clueless, or a garden-variety troll, but based on his past history, every solution/possibility offered by anyone is going to be met with a "But I *KNOW* it can't be *THAT*" type of response, regardless of what the suggestion is or who it comes from. Might be time for all of us to just throw in the towel... -- Email shown is deceased. If you would like to contact me by email, please post something that makes it obvious in this or another group you see me posting in with a "how to contact you" address, and I'll get back to you.
From: David Empson on 8 Feb 2010 08:18
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > In article <1jdjksf.oe2xfa108lnewN%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>, > mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote: > > > Dan <me(a)here.net> wrote: > > > > > > Mike it appears you may be correct. I sure hope that Mem Test does not > > > > find anything wrong with the logic board RAM. If its logic board RAM > > > > then its time for a new Mac. > > > > > > Memory test programs are not always reliable. The best test is to > > > replace the RAM. If the problem goes away then it was the RAM, > > > regardless of what the test program claims. > > > > Yep, and I already told him that in another thread. He even responded to > > that post and again said he'd continue running MemTest, which of course > > he's already run, along with the Apple Hardware Test, the repair shop > > ran tests, too. > > The repair shop now tells me they ran no hardware tests so they did not > do their job. Removing the RAM did not resolve the issue so its serious > hardware or software. Judging from all of the evidence, particularly these facts: 1. It sometimes kernel panics while booted from the Mac OS X install DVD 2. Removing the user-accessible memory module from the iBook didn't help 3. The kernel panic logs you have posted recently show crashes due to arbitrary data accesses or while the video driver is active; My conclusions are: 1. The problem cannot possibly be a software issue unless you are incredibly unlucky and have a faulty system install DVD which somehow boots OK (no bad sectors) and passes its self-verification prior to installation. 2. Your iBook has a hardware fault on its logic board, most likely in the built-in video controller or its associated memory. The only way to fix this is to replace the logic board, and that will cost more than the iBook is worth (almost as much as buying a new Mac) unless you can get hold of an IDENTICAL model and arrange for someone to do the board swap (or do it yourself, which is a major exercise). -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz |