From: Chris F. on
Franc, you're not going to believe what was wrong the whole time.... I
hadn't yet replaced the cover to the lamp compartment, and last night I
realized there was a switch under that cover to sense when it was open.
Replaced the cover and the set works fine! Can't believe I was so dense as
to not realize that right from the start, instead of going on this wild
goose chase. I should have realized that the toughest problems often have
the simplest solutions.
I still thank you for your help though, it's good to know there are folks
out there to help me when I really do need it.

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:51:46 -0700, "Chris F." <zappyman(a)hotmail.com>
> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>You're right, and I should have realized that a long time ago.
>
> I was thrown by the fact that all the voltages were at 40%. You would
> normally expect that all rails would be at 0V apart from a single
> standby supply.
>
>>Shorting those pins did power the PSU and all voltages are now normal ...
>
> If the ballast supply is now at 400V, then this would imply that the
> PFC and voltage doubling function of IC810 is turned off in standby
> mode and turned on in run mode. This begs the question, how does IC810
> know that the set is in standby mode? Perhaps this is the function of
> pin 5?
>
>>... but the lamp still does not come on.
>
> The uP on the Tuner Board appears to control and sense the lamp via
> connector P10. BTW, when you shorted pins 1&2 of PB41, I hope you
> removed the connector, otherwise one of the uP pins would have been
> subjected to 16V.
>
>>I guess the next step is to test the ballast, but
>>for that I need the pinout, and eserviceinfo is still down.......
>
> I have uploaded tuner PCB circuit 2-of-2 to my web space:
> http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/MB-042C/
>
> It seems to me that if you can't get the set to come out of standby,
> then the M37151 uP (IC1) may be faulty, in which case your lamp
> problem may be a secondary issue, if it is in fact a problem at all.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
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From: Franc Zabkar on
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:23:04 -0700, "Chris F." <zappyman(a)hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

> Franc, you're not going to believe what was wrong the whole time.... I
>hadn't yet replaced the cover to the lamp compartment, and last night I
>realized there was a switch under that cover to sense when it was open.
>Replaced the cover and the set works fine! Can't believe I was so dense as
>to not realize that right from the start, instead of going on this wild
>goose chase. I should have realized that the toughest problems often have
>the simplest solutions.

I suppose one day you'll look back on this job and laugh about it.

I learned a lot in any case, so my time wasn't wasted.

- Franc Zabkar
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From: Chris F. on
I might not be out of the woods just yet.... although the set is working,
the remote isn't responding and I can't get a universal remote to work
either. The service manual does not include the control panel board so I
have no way to trace the remote signal. I'm not sure what to do now, I'm
worried that this may be something I caused while I had the set apart.......

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:23:04 -0700, "Chris F." <zappyman(a)hotmail.com>
> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>> Franc, you're not going to believe what was wrong the whole time.... I
>>hadn't yet replaced the cover to the lamp compartment, and last night I
>>realized there was a switch under that cover to sense when it was open.
>>Replaced the cover and the set works fine! Can't believe I was so dense as
>>to not realize that right from the start, instead of going on this wild
>>goose chase. I should have realized that the toughest problems often have
>>the simplest solutions.
>
> I suppose one day you'll look back on this job and laugh about it.
>
> I learned a lot in any case, so my time wasn't wasted.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


From: Art on


"Chris F." <zappyman(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I might not be out of the woods just yet.... although the set is working,
> the remote isn't responding and I can't get a universal remote to work
> either. The service manual does not include the control panel board so I
> have no way to trace the remote signal. I'm not sure what to do now, I'm
> worried that this may be something I caused while I had the set
> apart.......
>
> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:2n51a4h67c20g6uvsfpas5ic2mf9cis2tl(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:23:04 -0700, "Chris F." <zappyman(a)hotmail.com>
>> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>> Franc, you're not going to believe what was wrong the whole time.... I
>>>hadn't yet replaced the cover to the lamp compartment, and last night I
>>>realized there was a switch under that cover to sense when it was open.
>>>Replaced the cover and the set works fine! Can't believe I was so dense
>>>as
>>>to not realize that right from the start, instead of going on this wild
>>>goose chase. I should have realized that the toughest problems often have
>>>the simplest solutions.
>>
>> I suppose one day you'll look back on this job and laugh about it.
>>
>> I learned a lot in any case, so my time wasn't wasted.
>>
>> - Franc Zabkar
>> --
>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
>Did you reset the lamp timer so it will not remind you in two months to put
>another lamp into it?

From: Franc Zabkar on
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:19:28 -0700, "Chris F." <zappyman(a)hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>I might not be out of the woods just yet.... although the set is working,
>the remote isn't responding and I can't get a universal remote to work
>either. The service manual does not include the control panel board so I
>have no way to trace the remote signal. I'm not sure what to do now, I'm
>worried that this may be something I caused while I had the set apart.......

Pins 1,2,3 of P2 are where the IR sensor connects to the tuner board.

See http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/MB-042C/Tuner_UL.jpg

If you've disconnected P2, then you'll also have disconnected one of
the I2C buses.

- Franc Zabkar
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