From: Ant on
Hello!

In the past, apt-get's update and upgrade commands would tell me if
there were newer kernel packages in Debian. But lately, I noticed it
doesn't. For an example I am currently have and using Kernel v2.6.32-3-686:

# uname -a
Linux FooBar 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 06:14:20 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
# dpkg -l | grep ^ii |grep 2.6.32-3
ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9
Header files for Linux 2.6.32-3-686
ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-common 2.6.32-9
Common header files for Linux 2.6.32-3
ii linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9
Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs
ii linux-support-2.6.32-3 2.6.32-9
Support files for Linux 2.6.32

I did an apt-cache search for 2.6.32 and saw:
# apt-cache search 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-486 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-486
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-686-bigmem - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-686-bigmem
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-686
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-all-i386 - All header files for Linux 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-all - All header files for Linux 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-amd64
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common-openvz - Common header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-openvz
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common-vserver - Common header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-vserver
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common-xen - Common header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-xen
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common - Common header files for Linux 2.6.32-4
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-openvz-686 - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-openvz-686
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-vserver-686-bigmem - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-vserver-686-bigmem
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-vserver-686 - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-vserver-686
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-xen-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-xen-686
linux-image-2.6.32-4-486 - Linux 2.6.32 for old PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-4-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM
linux-image-2.6.32-4-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-4-amd64 - Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-4-openvz-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs, OpenVZ
support
linux-image-2.6.32-4-vserver-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+
RAM, Linux-VServer support
linux-image-2.6.32-4-vserver-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs,
Linux-VServer support
linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs, Xen dom0 support
linux-support-2.6.32-4 - Support files for Linux 2.6.32
xen-linux-system-2.6.32-4-xen-686 - Xen system with Linux 2.6.32 on
modern PCs
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-4-686-bigmem - NVIDIA binary kernel module for
Linux 2.6.32-4-686-bigmem
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-4-686 - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux
2.6.32-4-686
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-4-amd64 - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux
2.6.32-4-amd64
ANTian:/home/ant/download# apt-cache search 2.6.32-5
ANTian:/home/ant/download# apt-cache search 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-486 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-3-486
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686-bigmem - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-3-686-bigmem
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-3-686
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-all-i386 - All header files for Linux 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-all - All header files for Linux 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-3-amd64
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-common-vserver - Common header files for Linux
2.6.32-3-vserver
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-common - Common header files for Linux 2.6.32-3
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-vserver-686-bigmem - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-3-vserver-686-bigmem
linux-headers-2.6.32-3-vserver-686 - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-3-vserver-686
linux-image-2.6.32-3-486 - Linux 2.6.32 for old PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-3-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM
linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64 - Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-3-vserver-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+
RAM, Linux-VServer support
linux-image-2.6.32-3-vserver-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs,
Linux-VServer support
linux-support-2.6.32-3 - Support files for Linux 2.6.32
linux-kbuild-2.6.32 - Kbuild infrastructure for Linux 2.6.32
linux-image-2.6-486 - Linux 2.6 for old PCs
linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM
linux-image-2.6-686 - Linux 2.6 for modern PCs
linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs
linux-image-2.6-vserver-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM,
Linux-VServer support
linux-image-2.6-vserver-686 - Linux 2.6 for modern PCs, Linux-VServer
support
linux-image-486 - Linux for old PCs
linux-image-686-bigmem - Linux for PCs with 4GB+ RAM
linux-image-686 - Linux for modern PCs
linux-image-amd64 - Linux for 64-bit PCs
linux-image-vserver-686-bigmem - Linux for PCs with 4GB+ RAM,
Linux-VServer support
linux-image-vserver-686 - Linux for modern PCs, Linux-VServer support
linux-patch-xenomai - Linux kernel patches for Xenomai
firmware-bnx2 - Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII
prism2-usb-firmware-installer - firmware files for the prism2_usb kernel
driver
linux-doc-2.6.32 - Linux kernel specific documentation for version 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-486 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-486
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-686-bigmem - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-686-bigmem
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-686
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-all-i386 - All header files for Linux 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-all - All header files for Linux 2.6.32
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-amd64
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common-openvz - Common header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-openvz
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common-vserver - Common header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-vserver
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common-xen - Common header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-xen
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-common - Common header files for Linux 2.6.32-4
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-openvz-686 - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-openvz-686
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-vserver-686-bigmem - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-vserver-686-bigmem
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-vserver-686 - Header files for Linux
2.6.32-4-vserver-686
linux-headers-2.6.32-4-xen-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-xen-686
linux-image-2.6.32-4-486 - Linux 2.6.32 for old PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-4-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM
linux-image-2.6.32-4-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-4-amd64 - Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs
linux-image-2.6.32-4-openvz-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs, OpenVZ
support
linux-image-2.6.32-4-vserver-686-bigmem - Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+
RAM, Linux-VServer support
linux-image-2.6.32-4-vserver-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs,
Linux-VServer support
linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs, Xen dom0 support
linux-manual-2.6.32 - Linux kernel API manual pages for version 2.6.32
linux-patch-debian-2.6.32 - Debian patches to version 2.6.32 of the
Linux kernel
linux-source-2.6.32 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.32 with Debian
patches
linux-support-2.6.32-4 - Support files for Linux 2.6.32
xen-linux-system-2.6.32-4-xen-686 - Xen system with Linux 2.6.32 on
modern PCs
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-4-686-bigmem - NVIDIA binary kernel module for
Linux 2.6.32-4-686-bigmem
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-4-686 - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux
2.6.32-4-686
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-4-amd64 - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux
2.6.32-4-amd64

Why are these different numbers (e.g., -3 and -4) are considered
different packages these days? Years ago, they would be using the same
ones and would overwrite my current ones. It seems like I have to check
and update manually. :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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From: The Natural Philosopher on
Ant wrote:
> Hello!
>
> In the past, apt-get's update and upgrade commands would tell me if
> there were newer kernel packages in Debian. But lately, I noticed it
> doesn't. For an example I am currently have and using Kernel v2.6.32-3-686:
>
> # uname -a
> Linux FooBar 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 06:14:20 UTC 2010 i686
> GNU/Linux
> # dpkg -l | grep ^ii |grep 2.6.32-3
> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Header files for Linux
> 2.6.32-3-686
> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-common 2.6.32-9 Common header files
> for Linux 2.6.32-3
> ii linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Linux 2.6.32 for
> modern PCs
> ii linux-support-2.6.32-3 2.6.32-9 Support files for
> Linux 2.6.32
>

Hmm. You are not wrong.

2.6.32-4 has crept up unannouncecd!
From: Mumia W. on
On 04/22/2010 08:56 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello!
>
> In the past, apt-get's update and upgrade commands would tell me if
> there were newer kernel packages in Debian. But lately, I noticed it
> doesn't. For an example I am currently have and using Kernel v2.6.32-3-686:
>
> # uname -a
> Linux FooBar 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 06:14:20 UTC 2010 i686
> GNU/Linux
> # dpkg -l | grep ^ii |grep 2.6.32-3
> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Header files for Linux
> 2.6.32-3-686
> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-common 2.6.32-9 Common header files
> for Linux 2.6.32-3
> ii linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Linux 2.6.32 for
> modern PCs
> ii linux-support-2.6.32-3 2.6.32-9 Support files for
> Linux 2.6.32
>
> I did an apt-cache search for 2.6.32 and saw:
> # apt-cache search 2.6.32
> linux-headers-2.6.32-4-486 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-486
> linux-headers-2.6.32-4-686-bigmem - Header files for Linux
> 2.6.32-4-686-bigmem
> linux-headers-2.6.32-4-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-4-686 [...]

(Followups to alt.os.linux.debian)

Install linux-image-2.6-686 and linux-headers-2.6-686. Those should
depend upon the latest kernels and headers for your platform.
From: Ant on
On 4/22/2010 7:18 AM PT, The Natural Philosopher typed:

>> In the past, apt-get's update and upgrade commands would tell me if
>> there were newer kernel packages in Debian. But lately, I noticed it
>> doesn't. For an example I am currently have and using Kernel
>> v2.6.32-3-686:
>>
>> # uname -a
>> Linux FooBar 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 06:14:20 UTC 2010 i686
>> GNU/Linux
>> # dpkg -l | grep ^ii |grep 2.6.32-3
>> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Header files for Linux
>> 2.6.32-3-686
>> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-common 2.6.32-9 Common header files for
>> Linux 2.6.32-3
>> ii linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs
>> ii linux-support-2.6.32-3 2.6.32-9 Support files for Linux 2.6.32
>>
>
> Hmm. You are not wrong.
>
> 2.6.32-4 has crept up unannouncecd!

Doesn't it usually tell me to upgrade to replace my current 2.6.32
packages like in the past (years ago)?
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From: Bill Marcum on
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.debian.]
On 2010-04-22, Ant <ant(a)zimage.comANT> wrote:
> On 4/22/2010 7:18 AM PT, The Natural Philosopher typed:
>
>>> In the past, apt-get's update and upgrade commands would tell me if
>>> there were newer kernel packages in Debian. But lately, I noticed it
>>> doesn't. For an example I am currently have and using Kernel
>>> v2.6.32-3-686:
>>>
>>> # uname -a
>>> Linux FooBar 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 06:14:20 UTC 2010 i686
>>> GNU/Linux
>>> # dpkg -l | grep ^ii |grep 2.6.32-3
>>> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Header files for Linux
>>> 2.6.32-3-686
>>> ii linux-headers-2.6.32-3-common 2.6.32-9 Common header files for
>>> Linux 2.6.32-3
>>> ii linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 2.6.32-9 Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs
>>> ii linux-support-2.6.32-3 2.6.32-9 Support files for Linux 2.6.32
>>>
>>
>> Hmm. You are not wrong.
>>
>> 2.6.32-4 has crept up unannouncecd!
>
> Doesn't it usually tell me to upgrade to replace my current 2.6.32
> packages like in the past (years ago)?

Did you add backports to your sources.list? I think you have to
manually select a backported kernel.