From: Dave Cohen on
On 3/19/2010 11:01 PM, Xray wrote:
> Ok heres what happened, I feel like quite an idiot.
>

After reading dozens of replies and giving up on reading all of them
here is my take.
1. Make image backups of the os and sleep better for all sorts of reasons.
2. If you insist on downloading from a questionable source, run a multi
boot system where each os is completely isolated from each other.
Bootitng from terabyteunlimited will let you make such a system where
the partition table is only loaded with partitions you specify. That way
you can keep a throwaway copy of your main os.
3. If you go to the trouble of running AV software then at least pay
some attention to it's warnings.

I've never had a virus in years of computing, but I've accidentally lost
files and seen hd's go bad.
From: Dustin Cook on
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:ho5uup02i9m(a)news3.newsguy.com:

> From: "Xray" <pl(a)yer.com>
>
>| "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>| news:op.u9xnaluka3w0dxdave(a)hodgins.homeip.net:
>
>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:12:10 -0400, Xray <pl(a)yer.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Regarding the original problem, with the unreadable dvd, have
>>> you tried polishing it?
>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Scratched-CD
>
>>> The scratches on the bottom of the cd/dvd can sometimes be
>>> polished out, allowing the data (on the top layer, usually
>>> protected by the label), to be read.
>
>>> I've succeeded polishing an old install cd this way, in the
>>> past.
>
>>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>
>| Yeah, I have a top of the line cd polished, motor driven.
>| No joy, if it had worked this never would have happened.
>
>
> Does it ever work ?
>

Sometimes, depending on how deep the scratches are; yes...


--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

From: Dustin Cook on
Xray <pl(a)yer.com> wrote in news:ho5vn432i3r(a)news3.newsguy.com:

> Dustin Cook <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9D429FAA96CDAHHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.250:
>
>> Xray <pl(a)yer.com> wrote in news:ho48u611ar6(a)news3.newsguy.com:
>>
>>
>>> Computer functions Ok, but god knows whats going on behind the
>>> scenes. My ISP already stopped my ability to send email, it detected
>>> the virus like behavior. Can still receive at least.
>>> Can't connect to google, it also detected the shenanigans of the
>>> virus. Pressing ctrl/alt/delete doesn't bring up the process box
>>> anymore, other than that things seem normal.
>>
>> Your PC is actually in danger at this point of assisting in infecting
>> other machines or possibly being a zombie box if it's not already.
>>
>> At this point, I'd have to go with David lipmans suggestion.
>> Seriously, it's time to wipe and reload. If you hadn't of taken such
>> ... drastic if you will steps to try and stop this, it might not have
>> taken much real effort to fix; but at this point, I can't trust the
>> machine at all.
>>
>> Really man, your not just putting your information in danger, your
>> being a very irresponsible netizen by allowing that computer to
>> continue with an internet connection in it's current state. If your
>> ISP has already blocked outbound email, it should just be a matter of
>> time before your connection is disabled until you verify the machine
>> is clean.
>>
>> Atleast, that's what happens in this area. When your ISP turns you
>> off, you have to have a licensed technician contact them and claim
>> it's clean and is okay. And if it's not, it falls back on the tech
>> who did the work. Fines, etc are possible here.
>>
>> Several years ago when I worked for an ISP, I'd start by turning your
>> email off, and then I'd give you 24 hours. If your machine was still
>> spewing trojans and mass mailing worms; your connection was
>> terminated until you cleaned up your mess or took your business to a
>> less responsible ISP.
>
> You seem to have contradicted yourself.
> You said you'd start by turning off email, and if its still spewing
> mass mailing worms 24 hrs later, the connection is terminated.
>
> How is it going to be spewing mass mailing worms if the ability to
> send email is terminated ?

I need to clarify myself.. Sorry.

What I meant by turn off email would be a server side block on a specific
port. That would stop you from using your email client from sending
email, unless you changed the configuration of your program. At the same
time however, a mass mailing worm isn't going to bother with what I did
or worry about it, it's usually using it's own code and email server; on
a port I didn't block.


> How is anyone else in danger of being infected, since this machine
> can't email ?

That's the thing... Isn't it. *You* can't email, unless you make a change
or two. Don't assume your computer can't either. :)


--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

From: FromTheRafters on
"Xray" <pl(a)yer.com> wrote in message
news:ho5v2o12i3r(a)news3.newsguy.com...

> Highly unlikely any game publisher would feel obliged to send another
> copy,
> and in fact probably do not even stock them.

They may have a way to send you a link for a downloadable one. This
would be a more trustworthy channel.


From: Xray on
David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Xray"<pl(a)yer.com>
>
> | "David W. Hodgins"<dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> | news:op.u9xnaluka3w0dxdave(a)hodgins.homeip.net:
>
>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:12:10 -0400, Xray<pl(a)yer.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Regarding the original problem, with the unreadable dvd, have
>>> you tried polishing it?
>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Scratched-CD
>
>>> The scratches on the bottom of the cd/dvd can sometimes be
>>> polished out, allowing the data (on the top layer, usually
>>> protected by the label), to be read.
>
>>> I've succeeded polishing an old install cd this way, in the
>>> past.
>
>>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>
> | Yeah, I have a top of the line cd polished, motor driven.
> | No joy, if it had worked this never would have happened.
>
>
> Does it ever work ?

Its worked before, yes.
don't know if it does anything a good old fashioned spit shine wouldn't do