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From: Savageduck on 8 Jul 2010 12:10 On 2010-07-08 08:26:57 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> said: > On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:24:56 +0100, in > <soCdneCC94ZVcKjRnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, bugbear > <bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote: > >> John Navas wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT), in >>> <6c81b637-16dd-4a90-9a66-13563acefea6(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, Val >>> Hallah <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1293029/Birds-Andrew-Zuckermans-high-definition-photographs-new-book.html Amazing >>>> >>> images, but a bit garish for my taste, more science than art. >> >> What's interesting (to me) is that even the web-size versions >> of the images in the linked-to page look noticeably sharp and crisp. > > Yes, but artificially so (to my eyes at least). To me these seem more like illustration than photograph, very much along the lines of a Roger Tory Peterson, or Sibley Field Guide. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Allen on 8 Jul 2010 13:14 Savageduck wrote: > On 2010-07-08 08:26:57 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> said: > >> On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:24:56 +0100, in >> <soCdneCC94ZVcKjRnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, bugbear >> <bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote: >> >>> John Navas wrote: >>>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT), in >>>> <6c81b637-16dd-4a90-9a66-13563acefea6(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, >>>> Val >>>> Hallah <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1293029/Birds-Andrew-Zuckermans-high-definition-photographs-new-book.html >>>>> > > Amazing >>>>> >>>> images, but a bit garish for my taste, more science than art. >>> >>> What's interesting (to me) is that even the web-size versions >>> of the images in the linked-to page look noticeably sharp and crisp. >> >> Yes, but artificially so (to my eyes at least). > > To me these seem more like illustration than photograph, very much along > the lines of a Roger Tory Peterson, or Sibley Field Guide. > Right on. Allen
From: Peter on 8 Jul 2010 18:39 "John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:8hob36l4a6pfmhpoppsj4gk3s4jtpn7bju(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT), in > <6c81b637-16dd-4a90-9a66-13563acefea6(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, Val > Hallah <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1293029/Birds-Andrew-Zuckermans-high-definition-photographs-new-book.html > > Amazing images, but a bit garish for my taste, more science than art. > I am trying to craft my comment, artfully. Science is certainly on of the uses of photography. While there may very well be art in a science shot, the lack of art does not make it an uninteresting shot. I think the shots were excellent if considered as an accurate representation of the birds involved. -- Peter
From: John Navas on 8 Jul 2010 19:59 On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 18:39:32 -0400, in <4c3653e5$0$5533$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message >news:8hob36l4a6pfmhpoppsj4gk3s4jtpn7bju(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT), in >> <6c81b637-16dd-4a90-9a66-13563acefea6(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, Val >> Hallah <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1293029/Birds-Andrew-Zuckermans-high-definition-photographs-new-book.html >> >> Amazing images, but a bit garish for my taste, more science than art. > >I am trying to craft my comment, artfully. > >Science is certainly on of the uses of photography. While there may very >well be art in a science shot, the lack of art does not make it an >uninteresting shot. > >I think the shots were excellent if considered as an accurate representation >of the birds involved. Fair enough, but I see them as more technical than art, because the lighting is so flat -- I'm more attracted to natural highlights and shadows. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Floyd L. Davidson on 8 Jul 2010 20:13
"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message >news:8hob36l4a6pfmhpoppsj4gk3s4jtpn7bju(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT), in >> <6c81b637-16dd-4a90-9a66-13563acefea6(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, Val >> Hallah <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1293029/Birds-Andrew-Zuckermans-high-definition-photographs-new-book.html >> >> Amazing images, but a bit garish for my taste, more science than art. >> > >I am trying to craft my comment, artfully. > >Science is certainly on of the uses of photography. While there may very >well be art in a science shot, the lack of art does not make it an >uninteresting shot. > >I think the shots were excellent if considered as an accurate representation >of the birds involved. I was talking with a young lady a few days ago about photography and art, and when I suggested to her that the concept (which she very clearly understood) of an image as a medium to communicate a message to a viewer was something many photographers did not understand, and that I was pleased to see that she did understand it... She responded by sayng, "But I'm not a photographer! I'm an artist who uses photography." One of her most recent shows, which is now on tour, was 15 images of herself, all distinctly different, all with a white background, and very similar in many ways to the bird images cited above. (Incidentally, the 15 images were very carefully planned, and shot using 4x5 sheet film.) <http://ericalord.com/section/22658_Un_Defined_Self_Portrait_series.html> For a very different view (my art, as opposed to her's) of just who she is, <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson/gallery2/d3s_5221.s.jpg> <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson/gallery2/d3s_5504.s.jpg> I would suggest that anyone who does not see art in the bird pictures of Andrew-Zuckermans is not an artist, but just a photographer. His work is not "standard" photography, but is art at a level well beyond what most photography represents. (The "young lady", Erica Lord, teaches Art at the University of Alaska Fairbank, has a Masters degree in Art from Chicago's School of Art Institute, and has exhibited her work at the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian.) -- Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd(a)apaflo.com |