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From: David Combs on 14 Dec 2009 14:18

subj: blastwave vs opencsw: can you MIX programs in /opt/csw?

Note: opencsw uses pkgget (same, different from what blastwave used
*before* the messy "divorce" at Blastwave between Dennis Clarke and
Phillip Brown (went and started opencsw.org), whereas Clarke-and-team
created "pkgutil" (pkg-util?).

Now I see on opencsw that THEY have a "pkgutil" too -- plus a 2nd one,
"enhanced" or "advanced" or something.

Whether these various programs (pkg-get, pkgutil, -advanced) are
compatible or not, I have no idea.

I do know that opencsw ALSO uses /opt/csw, the SAME place Blastwave
uses!

So the obvious question: can I get an A from Blastwave and a B
from opencsw, and not break something?

More to the point, can I get an emacs-21 from Blastwave and an
emacs-23 from csw? (presumably new libraries from GNU never
invalidate old functions!)

Sure would have been nicer (or would it?) if opencsw would
have used eg /opt/opencsw instead of /opt/csw!


Any discussion?

Any EXPERIENCE of mixing the two software batches?


THANKS!

David


From: John D Groenveld on 14 Dec 2009 14:44
In article <hg6327$ee2$1(a)panix3.panix.com>,
David Combs <dkcombs(a)panix.com> wrote:
>So the obvious question: can I get an A from Blastwave and a B
>from opencsw, and not break something?

I would expect breakage.

>Sure would have been nicer (or would it?) if opencsw would
>have used eg /opt/opencsw instead of /opt/csw!

CSW was the assigned Solaris package prefix and csw was the assigned
directory for community software projects.

There can be many community software projects, but a user should
choose one.

I know of OpenCSW.ORG and Blastwave, but I wouldn't be surprised
if there weren't others for niche communities, such as governments
or militaries.

John
groenveld(a)acm.org
From: phil.googlenews on 15 Dec 2009 12:58
On Dec 14, 11:18 am, dkco...(a)panix.com (David Combs) wrote:
>
> More to the point, can I get an emacs-21 from Blastwave and an
> emacs-23 from csw?  (presumably new libraries from GNU never
> invalidate old functions!)

Err.. why would you want to?

(seriously, I'm presuming you have a reason, and I'd like to know the
answer)

From: David Combs on 16 Dec 2009 15:03
In article <d618eac4-883b-4c4b-8e5b-6a0d169e962b(a)g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
phil.googlenews(a)bolthole.com <phil.googlenews(a)bolthole.com> wrote:
>On Dec 14, 11:18�am, dkco...(a)panix.com (David Combs) wrote:
>>
>> More to the point, can I get an emacs-21 from Blastwave and an
>> emacs-23 from csw? �(presumably new libraries from GNU never
>> invalidate old functions!)
>
>Err.. why would you want to?
>
>(seriously, I'm presuming you have a reason, and I'd like to know the
>answer)
>

Blastwave has lots of stuff, and so do you, but there's
differences in versions, depending on who updated program
x first.

So I (and I guess most users too) would like to have some
from you, and some from blastwave, depending on the versions.

Makes sense to me.

But do tell me ((with repetition) I am able to learn) where
I'm wrong.

Thanks, Phil,


David


From: John D Groenveld on 16 Dec 2009 17:31
In article <hgbedv$8m$3(a)reader1.panix.com>,
David Combs <dkcombs(a)panix.com> wrote:
>So I (and I guess most users too) would like to have some
>from you, and some from blastwave, depending on the versions.

Assuming you're attempting to use CSW packages as dependencies
for your SageMath builds, set up two zones: one with pkg_get pointing
towards OpenCSW and another pointing towards Blastwave.

John
groenveld(a)acm.org
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