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From: smokey on 7 Jan 2010 23:26 Using Windows XP Pro SP3 with MS Office When trying to start computer it goes to the screen to select safe mode; start from last working etc; or to start normally. Have tried all these and it still won't start properly. It gets the Windows page up as if loading and then drops out (no signal to monitor) and returns to this start screen again. When it does this there is a blue screen that is there for a very short time with writing. It is too fast to even get a chance to read it. I have a ASUS P4S800-MX motherboard. Is this a hardware problem. I have a video card and don't think this is a problem as I have removed it and connected to the motherboard and have the same problem as before. Any ideas? -- smokey
From: Jose on 8 Jan 2010 07:35 On Jan 7, 11:26 pm, smokey <smo...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Using Windows XP Pro SP3 with MS Office > When trying to start computer it goes to the screen to select safe mode; > start from last working etc; or to start normally. > Have tried all these and it still won't start properly. It gets the Windows > page up as if loading and then drops out (no signal to monitor) and returns > to this start screen again. When it does this there is a blue screen that is > there for a very short time with writing. It is too fast to even get a > chance to read it. > I have a ASUS P4S800-MX motherboard. > Is this a hardware problem. I have a video card and don't think this is a > problem as I have removed it and connected to the motherboard and have the > same problem as before. > > Any ideas? > -- > smokey Sounds like you are seeing the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD). What do you think happened since the last time it booted? Power interruption, hardware change, software update, new software install, etc. Do you know your XP version and Service Pack and what is it? If you can only boot in some kind of Safe Mode, choose the option: Disable automatic restart on system failure so you can see the BSOD. Here are some BSOD blue screen of death examples showing information you need to provide: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/Windows_XP_BSOD.png http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/downloads/images/bsod_a.jpg Send the information pointed to with the red arrows (3-4 lines total). Skip the boring text unless it looks important to you. We know what a BSOD looks like, we need to know the other information that is specific to your BSOD. In the meantime, you need to get booted on something. Either come up with a genuine bootable XP installation CD (not a system recovery CD that may have come with your system), or make yourself a bootable XP Recovery Console CD (no XP media required). If you don't have a genuine bootable XP installation CD, make a bootable Recovery Console CD using a working system: You can make a bootable Recovery Console CD by downloading an ISO file and burning it to a CD. The bootable ISO image file you need to download is called: xp_rec_con.iso Download the ISO file from here: http://www.mediafire.com/?ueyyzfymmig Use this free and easy program to create your bootable CD: http://www.imgburn.com/ It would be a good idea to test your bootable CD on a computer that is working. You may need to adjust the computer BIOS settings to use the CD ROM drive as the first boot device instead of the hard disk. These adjustments are made before Windows tries to load. If you miss it, you will have to reboot the system again. When you boot on the CD, follow the prompts: Press any key to boot from CD... The Windows Setup... will proceed. Press 'R' to enter the Recovery Console. Select the installation you want to access (usually 1: C:\WINDOWS) You may be asked to enter the Administrator password (usually empty). You should be in the C:\WINDOWS folder. This is the same as the C: \WINDOWS folder you see in explorer. RC allows basic file commands - copy, rename, replace, delete, cd, chkdsk, fixboot, fixmbr, etc. Boot your system on the RC, then we will fix it.
From: db on 8 Jan 2010 11:20 it seems that if you cannot access any modes then your only option is to boot up with an xp cd and login to the recovery console. then at the system disk prompt you might try running the following commands: chkdsk /f fixboot then "exit" and reboot without cd. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional - Systems Analyst - Database Developer - Accountancy - Veteran of the Armed Forces - @Hotmail.com - nntp Postologist ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "smokey" <smokey(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0986C5B8-E1A7-4826-B900-3A431C8DC431(a)microsoft.com... > Using Windows XP Pro SP3 with MS Office > When trying to start computer it goes to the screen to select safe mode; > start from last working etc; or to start normally. > Have tried all these and it still won't start properly. It gets the > Windows > page up as if loading and then drops out (no signal to monitor) and > returns > to this start screen again. When it does this there is a blue screen that > is > there for a very short time with writing. It is too fast to even get a > chance to read it. > I have a ASUS P4S800-MX motherboard. > Is this a hardware problem. I have a video card and don't think this is a > problem as I have removed it and connected to the motherboard and have the > same problem as before. > > Any ideas? > -- > smokey
From: smokey on 14 Jan 2010 06:06 Jose Running Win XP Pro Ver 2002, SP3 Got the BCOD up & supply the following info:- PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA STOP: 0x00000050 (0xEC6B738D, 0x00000000, 0x866EC08C, 0x00000000) I have had problems with my CD/DVD drives not working, they won't read or burn. I have been using an external CD/DVD drive. I have not had any power problems. All I have was when I was using the computer, it rebooted and came up with the present problem. I found how to get the BCOD up and Googled 'PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA'. I removed the video card and connected the monitor to the motherboard. Did not fix the problem. I have two RAM cards,a 512 and 1 GB. Both have been in for about 18 months. I removed the 512 and the computer booted up OK. This was last Friday and I assumed the 512 was buggered. The computer has been working OK since then until I went to start it up this afternoon. It show the same errors. I have tried to swap around the RAM's, including an 256 card, still will not boot up. I am currently using a laptop which is using the same version of windows. Can I make a bootable Recovery Console CD from it? Any suggestions. -- smokey "Jose" wrote: > On Jan 7, 11:26 pm, smokey <smo...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > Using Windows XP Pro SP3 with MS Office > > When trying to start computer it goes to the screen to select safe mode; > > start from last working etc; or to start normally. > > Have tried all these and it still won't start properly. It gets the Windows > > page up as if loading and then drops out (no signal to monitor) and returns > > to this start screen again. When it does this there is a blue screen that is > > there for a very short time with writing. It is too fast to even get a > > chance to read it. > > I have a ASUS P4S800-MX motherboard. > > Is this a hardware problem. I have a video card and don't think this is a > > problem as I have removed it and connected to the motherboard and have the > > same problem as before. > > > > Any ideas? > > -- > > smokey > > Sounds like you are seeing the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD). > > What do you think happened since the last time it booted? Power > interruption, hardware change, software update, new software install, > etc. > > Do you know your XP version and Service Pack and what is it? > > If you can only boot in some kind of Safe Mode, choose the option: > > Disable automatic restart on system failure so you can see the BSOD. > > Here are some BSOD blue screen of death examples showing information > you need to provide: > > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/Windows_XP_BSOD.png > http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/downloads/images/bsod_a.jpg > > Send the information pointed to with the red arrows (3-4 lines > total). Skip the boring text unless it looks important to you. We > know what a BSOD looks like, we need to know the other information > that is specific to your BSOD. > > In the meantime, you need to get booted on something. > > Either come up with a genuine bootable XP installation CD (not a > system recovery CD that may have come with your system), or make > yourself a bootable XP Recovery Console CD (no XP media required). > > If you don't have a genuine bootable XP installation CD, make a > bootable Recovery Console CD using a working system: > > You can make a bootable Recovery Console CD by downloading an ISO file > and burning it to a CD. > > The bootable ISO image file you need to download is called: > > xp_rec_con.iso > > Download the ISO file from here: > > http://www.mediafire.com/?ueyyzfymmig > > Use this free and easy program to create your bootable CD: > > http://www.imgburn.com/ > > It would be a good idea to test your bootable CD on a computer that is > working. > > You may need to adjust the computer BIOS settings to use the CD ROM > drive as the first boot device instead of the hard disk. These > adjustments are made before Windows tries to load. If you miss it, > you will have to reboot the system again. > > When you boot on the CD, follow the prompts: > > Press any key to boot from CD... > > The Windows Setup... will proceed. > > Press 'R' to enter the Recovery Console. > > Select the installation you want to access (usually 1: C:\WINDOWS) > > You may be asked to enter the Administrator password (usually empty). > > You should be in the C:\WINDOWS folder. This is the same as the C: > \WINDOWS folder you see in explorer. > > RC allows basic file commands - copy, rename, replace, delete, cd, > chkdsk, fixboot, fixmbr, etc. > > Boot your system on the RC, then we will fix it. > > . >
From: Jose on 14 Jan 2010 09:45
On Jan 14, 6:06 am, smokey <smo...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Jose > > Running Win XP Pro Ver 2002, SP3 > > Got the BCOD up & supply the following info:- > PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA > > STOP: 0x00000050 (0xEC6B738D, 0x00000000, 0x866EC08C, 0x00000000) > > I have had problems with my CD/DVD drives not working, they won't read or > burn. I have been using an external CD/DVD drive. > > I have not had any power problems. All I have was when I was using the > computer, it rebooted and came up with the present problem. I found how to > get the BCOD up and Googled 'PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA'. I removed the > video card and connected the monitor to the motherboard. Did not fix the > problem. > > I have two RAM cards,a 512 and 1 GB. Both have been in for about 18 months. > I removed the 512 and the computer booted up OK. This was last Friday and I > assumed the 512 was buggered. The computer has been working OK since then > until I went to start it up this afternoon. It show the same errors. > > I have tried to swap around the RAM's, including an 256 card, still will not > boot up. > > I am currently using a laptop which is using the same version of windows. > Can I make a bootable Recovery Console CD from it? > > Any suggestions. > -- > smokey > > > > "Jose" wrote: > > On Jan 7, 11:26 pm, smokey <smo...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > Using Windows XP Pro SP3 with MS Office > > > When trying to start computer it goes to the screen to select safe mode; > > > start from last working etc; or to start normally. > > > Have tried all these and it still won't start properly. It gets the Windows > > > page up as if loading and then drops out (no signal to monitor) and returns > > > to this start screen again. When it does this there is a blue screen that is > > > there for a very short time with writing. It is too fast to even get a > > > chance to read it. > > > I have a ASUS P4S800-MX motherboard. > > > Is this a hardware problem. I have a video card and don't think this is a > > > problem as I have removed it and connected to the motherboard and have the > > > same problem as before. > > > > Any ideas? > > > -- > > > smokey > > > Sounds like you are seeing the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD). > > > What do you think happened since the last time it booted? Power > > interruption, hardware change, software update, new software install, > > etc. > > > Do you know your XP version and Service Pack and what is it? > > > If you can only boot in some kind of Safe Mode, choose the option: > > > Disable automatic restart on system failure so you can see the BSOD. > > > Here are some BSOD blue screen of death examples showing information > > you need to provide: > > >http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/Windows_XP_BSOD.png > >http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/downloads/images/bsod_a.jpg > > > Send the information pointed to with the red arrows (3-4 lines > > total). Skip the boring text unless it looks important to you. We > > know what a BSOD looks like, we need to know the other information > > that is specific to your BSOD. > > > In the meantime, you need to get booted on something. > > > Either come up with a genuine bootable XP installation CD (not a > > system recovery CD that may have come with your system), or make > > yourself a bootable XP Recovery Console CD (no XP media required). > > > If you don't have a genuine bootable XP installation CD, make a > > bootable Recovery Console CD using a working system: > > > You can make a bootable Recovery Console CD by downloading an ISO file > > and burning it to a CD. > > > The bootable ISO image file you need to download is called: > > > xp_rec_con.iso > > > Download the ISO file from here: > > >http://www.mediafire.com/?ueyyzfymmig > > > Use this free and easy program to create your bootable CD: > > >http://www.imgburn.com/ > > > It would be a good idea to test your bootable CD on a computer that is > > working. > > > You may need to adjust the computer BIOS settings to use the CD ROM > > drive as the first boot device instead of the hard disk. These > > adjustments are made before Windows tries to load. If you miss it, > > you will have to reboot the system again. > > > When you boot on the CD, follow the prompts: > > > Press any key to boot from CD... > > > The Windows Setup... will proceed. > > > Press 'R' to enter the Recovery Console. > > > Select the installation you want to access (usually 1: C:\WINDOWS) > > > You may be asked to enter the Administrator password (usually empty). > > > You should be in the C:\WINDOWS folder. This is the same as the C: > > \WINDOWS folder you see in explorer. > > > RC allows basic file commands - copy, rename, replace, delete, cd, > > chkdsk, fixboot, fixmbr, etc. > > > Boot your system on the RC, then we will fix it. > > > . If you can download and can burn a CD, most certainly. It is very general purpose and not machine specific. Read above for instructions on how to make your own bootable Recovery Console CD and you can create and test it in a working computer. If you don't understand my copy/paste directions, let me know. For suspicious RAM, you can create another bootable CD with memtest86+ on it and test on the afflicted machine - all the RAM, one stick at a time, etc. To me, even one memtest86+ error qualifies as a failure and means replace the RAM. Run the memtest86+ on the afflicted system while you are creating the RC disc on your good system (multi task). Both of these CDs are good things to have anyway in your computer CD collection. Run a test of your RAM with memtest86+ (I know it is boring and will cost you a CD). The memtest will not run under Windows, so you will need to download the ISO file and create a bootable CD, boot on that and then run the memtest program. The file and instructions are here: http://www.memtest.org/ If someone suggests that you run memtest86, you can say that you know memtest86+ supercedes memtest86 and here's why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memtest86 |