From: Mike Jones on
Responding to unruh:

[...]
>>> I'd prefer (and I most of the times use) Joerg's post way, anyway,
>>> just a quick question (untested, no CDW at work ,-), did you try and
>>> remove the pre-gap between tracks 1 and 2, in your toc :
>>>
>>>> // Track 2
>>>> TRACK AUDIO
>>>> NO COPY
>>>> NO PRE_EMPHASIS
>>>> TWO_CHANNEL_AUDIO
>>>> FILE "data.wav" 03:57:58 03:35:00
>>>> START 00:00:02
>>>
>>> remove that last line (the START pre-gap)
>>
>>
>> Yup. Hacked things about quite a bit, but all I ended up with was a
>> forced-gap recording, or command syntax errors.
> Are you sure that you JUST removed the START lines and did nothing else
> to the file and tried burning it?


Yup. Its starting to look like something has crept into things somewhere.

I'll have another go tommorrow.

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From: Mike Jones on
Responding to unruh:

>>===================================
>>
>> CD_DA
>>
>>
>> // Track 1
>> TRACK AUDIO
>> NO COPY
>> NO PRE_EMPHASIS
>> TWO_CHANNEL_AUDIO
>> SILENCE 00:00:33
>> FILE "data.wav" 0 03:57:58
>> START 00:00:33
> Well, I would remove all the START lines.
>
> I would also remover the SILENCE line.


Tried that already.

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From: Mike Jones on
Responding to unruh:

> On 2010-05-20, Joerg Schilling <js(a)cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> In article <pan.2010.05.17.22.56.26(a)dasteem.invalid>, Mike Jones
>> <luck(a)dasteem.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> cdrdao write --device /dev/cd2 --datafile cd.bin cd.toc
>>>
>>>...records a copy, with 2 second gaps between all tracks. Bah!
>>>
>>>
>>>I've tried a number of "blindly whacking away at things to see what
>>>happens" and "If this works I'm a genius" experiments, but the magic
>>>"Do a matching copy without forcing 2 second gaps" end result still
>>>eludes me.
>>
>> cdrdao does not seem to get attention anymore by it's developers, it
>> did not get new features since May 2005, so it looks orphaned.
>>
>> Just follow the EXAMPLES sections in the cdrtools man pages.....
>>
>> cdda2wav -vall cddb=0 -B
>> cdrecord -v -sao -useinfo *.wav
>>
>> This is known to work since 12 years now ;-)
>
> While I agree, I still like cdrdao, or and especially gcdmaster in
> enabeling me easily to grab bits and pieces from a wav file and master
> than onto a CD, without actually altering the original .wav file. Ie, in
> the toc file of cdrdao, you specify the .wav file and the beginning of a
> section and length and you can piece together parts from a number of
> files or different parts of the same file, or whatever. That is
> something that I do not know of any other cd mastering software that
> does it. gcdmaster also allow you to immediately listen to the result.
> Furthermore the .toc file will save the result ( in English) so that you
> can reuse it again 4 years later when you have long forgotten what you
> did, or even edit it by hand.
> It would be great if someone wrote the same kind of thing for cdrecord
> But I do not know of anything.
>
>
>


I failed the above examples. Where does the -device stuff go?

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From: unruh on
On 2010-05-20, Mike Jones <luck(a)dasteem.invalid> wrote:
> Responding to unruh:
>
>> On 2010-05-20, Joerg Schilling <js(a)cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>> In article <pan.2010.05.17.22.56.26(a)dasteem.invalid>, Mike Jones
>>> <luck(a)dasteem.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> cdrdao write --device /dev/cd2 --datafile cd.bin cd.toc
>>>>
>>>>...records a copy, with 2 second gaps between all tracks. Bah!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've tried a number of "blindly whacking away at things to see what
>>>>happens" and "If this works I'm a genius" experiments, but the magic
>>>>"Do a matching copy without forcing 2 second gaps" end result still
>>>>eludes me.
>>>
>>> cdrdao does not seem to get attention anymore by it's developers, it
>>> did not get new features since May 2005, so it looks orphaned.
>>>
>>> Just follow the EXAMPLES sections in the cdrtools man pages.....
>>>
>>> cdda2wav -vall cddb=0 -B
>>> cdrecord -v -sao -useinfo *.wav
>>>
>>> This is known to work since 12 years now ;-)
>>
>> While I agree, I still like cdrdao, or and especially gcdmaster in
>> enabeling me easily to grab bits and pieces from a wav file and master
>> than onto a CD, without actually altering the original .wav file. Ie, in
>> the toc file of cdrdao, you specify the .wav file and the beginning of a
>> section and length and you can piece together parts from a number of
>> files or different parts of the same file, or whatever. That is
>> something that I do not know of any other cd mastering software that
>> does it. gcdmaster also allow you to immediately listen to the result.
>> Furthermore the .toc file will save the result ( in English) so that you
>> can reuse it again 4 years later when you have long forgotten what you
>> did, or even edit it by hand.
>> It would be great if someone wrote the same kind of thing for cdrecord
>> But I do not know of anything.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I failed the above examples. Where does the -device stuff go?

You know again you are giving us no information to help you.
Which examples failed? What were the results?

Note also that you should put the cd into a cdplayer ( not into audacity
or xine or whatever-- they may put in a gap even though none exists on
teh disk-- that is what it sounds like if you say the gap is different
on the various players).


>
From: Mike Jones on
Responding to unruh:

> On 2010-05-20, Mike Jones <luck(a)dasteem.invalid> wrote:
>> Responding to unruh:
>>
>>> On 2010-05-20, Joerg Schilling <js(a)cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>> In article <pan.2010.05.17.22.56.26(a)dasteem.invalid>, Mike Jones
>>>> <luck(a)dasteem.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> cdrdao write --device /dev/cd2 --datafile cd.bin cd.toc
>>>>>
>>>>>...records a copy, with 2 second gaps between all tracks. Bah!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've tried a number of "blindly whacking away at things to see what
>>>>>happens" and "If this works I'm a genius" experiments, but the magic
>>>>>"Do a matching copy without forcing 2 second gaps" end result still
>>>>>eludes me.
>>>>
>>>> cdrdao does not seem to get attention anymore by it's developers, it
>>>> did not get new features since May 2005, so it looks orphaned.
>>>>
>>>> Just follow the EXAMPLES sections in the cdrtools man pages.....
>>>>
>>>> cdda2wav -vall cddb=0 -B
>>>> cdrecord -v -sao -useinfo *.wav
>>>>
>>>> This is known to work since 12 years now ;-)
>>>
>>> While I agree, I still like cdrdao, or and especially gcdmaster in
>>> enabeling me easily to grab bits and pieces from a wav file and master
>>> than onto a CD, without actually altering the original .wav file. Ie,
>>> in the toc file of cdrdao, you specify the .wav file and the beginning
>>> of a section and length and you can piece together parts from a number
>>> of files or different parts of the same file, or whatever. That is
>>> something that I do not know of any other cd mastering software that
>>> does it. gcdmaster also allow you to immediately listen to the result.
>>> Furthermore the .toc file will save the result ( in English) so that
>>> you can reuse it again 4 years later when you have long forgotten what
>>> you did, or even edit it by hand.
>>> It would be great if someone wrote the same kind of thing for cdrecord
>>> But I do not know of anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I failed the above examples. Where does the -device stuff go?
>
> You know again you are giving us no information to help you. Which
> examples failed? What were the results?


The examples, as I said, were the ones mentioned above, and they failed
because no device is specified. Thats why I asked about the -device
stuff, as in, how did you configure what device to use?


> Note also that you should put the cd into a cdplayer ( not into audacity
> or xine or whatever-- they may put in a gap even though none exists on
> teh disk-- that is what it sounds like if you say the gap is different
> on the various players).
>


The original CDs play fine. Something is not working like it says on the
tin here.

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