From: His kennyness on
The classic OpenGL Gears demo, running really badly, in Common Lisp atop
Tcl/Tk:

http://github.com/kennytilton/celtk

Select the celtk-3d branch.

Next stop, Cello I guess.
From: Erik Winkels on
On 2010-04-19, His kennyness <kentilton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The classic OpenGL Gears demo, running really badly, in Common Lisp atop
> Tcl/Tk:

Screenshots or it didn't happen, Kenny!
From: His kennyness on
D Herring wrote:
> On 04/19/2010 03:46 AM, Erik Winkels wrote:
>> On 2010-04-19, His kennyness<kentilton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The classic OpenGL Gears demo, running really badly, in Common Lisp atop
>>> Tcl/Tk:
>>
>> Screenshots or it didn't happen, Kenny!
>
> I just snapped this off Kenny's screen.
> http://libcl.com/tmp/celtk-3d.png

I don't think so. It looks like you simply installed tcl/tk:

http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/download.html

....and togl 1.7:


http://sourceforge.net/projects/togl/files/Togl/1.7/Togl-1.7.tar.gz/download

....and the celtk-3d branch of celtk:

http://github.com/kennytilton/celtk

....then got a copy of AllegroCL:

http://www.franz.com/downloads/clp/survey

....(because that was easier than manually converting LPR files to ASD
and hey, wasn't it about time you saw what a real IDE was like?) and
then tried to build and every time it complained you grabbed another
repository of mine from github or a cffi dependency from cliki.

You then figured out where all the rendering errors were coming from and
fixed things up. Want to be a committer? Or was it Mesa you had to patch?

>
> He should use a more secure OS...
>
> Quoth aols:
> "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
>

Why should Slackware be too hard? Doesn't it install painlessly and then
let one add/update painlessy like Ubuntu*? Puzzled.

kt

From: His kennyness on
Erik Winkels wrote:
> On 2010-04-19, His kennyness <kentilton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> The classic OpenGL Gears demo, running really badly, in Common Lisp atop
>> Tcl/Tk:
>
> Screenshots or it didn't happen, Kenny!

The Yobbos live! Mastenbrook did so well with his "Kenny the liar"
campaign you decided to die there, too?

But, um, why do you not believe me? Is there supposed to be something
hard about getting the gears demo going? Note that tcl/tk/togl are doing
all the heavy lifting so I am not sure why you would even be skeptical.

Is it talking to tcl/tl/togl via CFFI the part you cannot imagine? I
would say those things are more irritating than hard, having done a bit
of FFI in my day.

Finally, hey, shut your pie hole and look at the celtk-3d branch here:

http://github.com/kennytilton/celtk

kt

ps. Name an Ubuntu screenshotter that Just Works and I'll see what I can
do.
From: D Herring on
On 04/19/2010 02:51 PM, His kennyness wrote:

> ps. Name an Ubuntu screenshotter that Just Works and I'll see what I can
> do.

Is KSnapshot installed?

- Daniel