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From: Uncle Ben on 20 Jun 2010 01:57 colp, you complain that SR implies a contradiction: each twin is younger than the other, which is absurd. No one has yet explained to you why, in SR, it is not absurd. Consider two trains passing in opposite directions.. I am in one train and you are in the other. I say I am stationary and you are moving; you say you are stationary and I am moving. We go to a seance and the medium let's us ask the ghost of Galileo who is right? Galileo says, "motion is relative!" We agree then that we are both right, each relative to his own rest frame of reference. Consider now the first phase of the symmetric twin puzzle: each twin calculates from SR that the other is aging slower than himself. Absurd? No, each is correct relative to his own rest frame. Einstein discovered that time is relative! You don't want to believe that time is relative, because you have no experience moving at even 0.001 c, but people have measured the effect, and Einstein was right. Uncle Ben
From: oen on 20 Jun 2010 04:05 On Jun 20, 7:57 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote: > colp, you complain that SR implies a contradiction: each twin is > younger than the other, which is absurd. No one has yet explained to > you why, in SR, it is not absurd. > > Consider two trains passing in opposite directions.. I am in one > train and you are in the other. I say I am stationary and you are > moving; you say you are stationary and I am moving. > > We go to a seance and the medium let's us ask the ghost of Galileo > who is right? Galileo says, "motion is relative!" We agree then that > we are both right, each relative to his own rest frame of reference. > > Consider now the first phase of the symmetric twin puzzle: each twin > calculates from SR that the other is aging slower than himself. > Absurd? No, each is correct relative to his own rest frame. Einstein > discovered that time is relative! > > You don't want to believe that time is relative, because you have no > experience moving at even 0.001 c, but people have measured the > effect, and Einstein was right. > > Uncle Ben you realize that you just wrote a lot of words and said exactly nothing ??? that you agree, why should any anybody care !!!
From: Helmut Wabnig hwabnig on 20 Jun 2010 04:48 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:05:43 -0700 (PDT), oen <ynes95v6(a)techemail.com> wrote: >On Jun 20, 7:57 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote: >> colp, you complain that SR implies a contradiction: each twin is >> younger than the other, which is absurd. No one has yet explained to >> you why, in SR, it is not absurd. >> >> Consider two trains passing in opposite directions.. I am in one >> train and you are in the other. I say I am stationary and you are >> moving; you say you are stationary and I am moving. >> >> We go to a seance and the medium let's us ask the ghost of Galileo >> who is right? Galileo says, "motion is relative!" We agree then that >> we are both right, each relative to his own rest frame of reference. >> >> Consider now the first phase of the symmetric twin puzzle: each twin >> calculates from SR that the other is aging slower than himself. >> Absurd? No, each is correct relative to his own rest frame. Einstein >> discovered that time is relative! >> >> You don't want to believe that time is relative, because you have no >> experience moving at even 0.001 c, but people have measured the >> effect, and Einstein was right. >> >> Uncle Ben > >you realize that you just wrote a lot of >words and said exactly nothing ??? > >that you agree, why should any anybody care !!! he said "people have measured" which is exactly nothing without citing sources. Hmm. So I said something :-) w.
From: Uncle Ben on 20 Jun 2010 12:26 On Jun 20, 1:57 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote: > colp, you complain that SR implies a contradiction: each twin is > younger than the other, which is absurd. No one has yet explained to > you why, in SR, it is not absurd. > > Consider two trains passing in opposite directions.. I am in one > train and you are in the other. I say I am stationary and you are > moving; you say you are stationary and I am moving. > > We go to a seance and the medium let's us ask the ghost of Galileo > who is right? Galileo says, "motion is relative!" We agree then that > we are both right, each relative to his own rest frame of reference. > > Consider now the first phase of the symmetric twin puzzle: each twin > calculates from SR that the other is aging slower than himself. > Absurd? No, each is correct relative to his own rest frame. Einstein > discovered that time is relative! > > You don't want to believe that time is relative, because you have no > experience moving at even 0.001 c, but people have measured the > effect, and Einstein was right. > > Uncle Ben People who don't know how to look things up might find the following link interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E2%80%93Keating_experiment
From: Androcles on 20 Jun 2010 13:14
"Uncle Ben" <ben(a)greenba.com> wrote in message news:d210f647-5e8b-4a02-916b-784518d2348d(a)y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Jun 20, 1:57 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote: > colp, you complain that SR implies a contradiction: each twin is > younger than the other, which is absurd. No one has yet explained to > you why, in SR, it is not absurd. > > Consider two trains passing in opposite directions.. I am in one > train and you are in the other. I say I am stationary and you are > moving; you say you are stationary and I am moving. > > We go to a seance and the medium let's us ask the ghost of Galileo > who is right? Galileo says, "motion is relative!" We agree then that > we are both right, each relative to his own rest frame of reference. > > Consider now the first phase of the symmetric twin puzzle: each twin > calculates from SR that the other is aging slower than himself. > Absurd? No, each is correct relative to his own rest frame. Einstein > discovered that time is relative! > > You don't want to believe that time is relative, because you have no > experience moving at even 0.001 c, but people have measured the > effect, and Einstein was right. > > Uncle Ben People who don't know how to look things up might find the following link interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E2%80%93Keating_experiment ============================================== Babbling American rednecks of science might find the following link interesting: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lie synonyms lie, prevaricate, equivocate, palter, fib mean to tell an untruth. lie is the blunt term, imputing dishonesty <lied about where he had been>. prevaricate softens the bluntness of lie by implying quibbling or confusing the issue <during the hearings the witness did his best to prevaricate>. equivocate implies using words having more than one sense so as to seem to say one thing but intend another <equivocated endlessly in an attempt to mislead her inquisitors>. palter implies making unreliable statements of fact or intention or insincere promises <a swindler paltering with his investors>. fib applies to a telling of a trivial untruth <fibbed about the price of the new suit>. |