From: gct on 24 May 2010 15:48 So I'm reading this paper, and they're deriving a formula for the correlation between a received signal (r(n) a superposition of multipath copies) and a known copy s(n). The formula can be seen here: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4129/formulab.jpg I get they're substituting the definition of r(n) back into the summation and then carrying s(n) inside the second summation, but then it looks like they're doing some DFT/IDFT stuff that I don't understand how they justify. Can anyone help to decipher?
From: Dilip Warrier on 24 May 2010 22:16 On May 24, 3:48 pm, "gct" <smcallis(a)n_o_s_p_a_m.gmail.com> wrote: > So I'm reading this paper, and they're deriving a formula for the > correlation between a received signal (r(n) a superposition of multipath > copies) and a known copy s(n). The formula can be seen here:http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4129/formulab.jpg > > I get they're substituting the definition of r(n) back into the summation > and then carrying s(n) inside the second summation, but then it looks like > they're doing some DFT/IDFT stuff that I don't understand how they justify. > Can anyone help to decipher? Yes, in the second step, they are using the result that a circular convolution in time is equivalent to multiplication in the frequency domain. It's a result that's derived in most DSP textbooks. See for instance Oppenheim & Schafer, Discrete-time Signal Processing. Dilip.
From: Jerry Avins on 24 May 2010 22:39 On 5/24/2010 10:16 PM, Dilip Warrier wrote: > On May 24, 3:48 pm, "gct"<smcallis(a)n_o_s_p_a_m.gmail.com> wrote: >> So I'm reading this paper, and they're deriving a formula for the >> correlation between a received signal (r(n) a superposition of multipath >> copies) and a known copy s(n). The formula can be seen here:http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4129/formulab.jpg >> >> I get they're substituting the definition of r(n) back into the summation >> and then carrying s(n) inside the second summation, but then it looks like >> they're doing some DFT/IDFT stuff that I don't understand how they justify. >> Can anyone help to decipher? > > Yes, in the second step, they are using the result that a circular > convolution in time is equivalent to multiplication in the frequency > domain. It's a result that's derived in most DSP textbooks. See for > instance Oppenheim& Schafer, Discrete-time Signal Processing. Circular? Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
From: robert bristow-johnson on 24 May 2010 23:43 On May 24, 10:39 pm, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > On 5/24/2010 10:16 PM, Dilip Warrier wrote: > > > On May 24, 3:48 pm, "gct"<smcallis(a)n_o_s_p_a_m.gmail.com> wrote: > >> So I'm reading this paper, and they're deriving a formula for the > >> correlation between a received signal (r(n) a superposition of multipath > >> copies) and a known copy s(n). The formula can be seen here:http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4129/formulab.jpg > > >> I get they're substituting the definition of r(n) back into the summation > >> and then carrying s(n) inside the second summation, but then it looks like > >> they're doing some DFT/IDFT stuff that I don't understand how they justify. > >> Can anyone help to decipher? > > > Yes, in the second step, they are using the result that a circular > > convolution in time is equivalent to multiplication in the frequency > > domain. It's a result that's derived in most DSP textbooks. See for > > instance Oppenheim& Schafer, Discrete-time Signal Processing. > > Circular? yeah, if it's the DFTs being multiplied. r b-j
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