From: Robert Orban on 10 Feb 2010 20:51 In article <hki7js$cav$9(a)naig.caltech.edu>, gah(a)ugcs.caltech.edu says... > > >Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> wrote: >(snip) > >> I don't think that the RF spectrum is relevant. Compatible FM stereo >> consists of L+R in the main band where a mono detector will reproduce >> it, and L-R multiplexed in a way that can, for this discussion, remain >> mysterious. A stereo receiver combines (L+R) and (L-R) to produce L and >> R. The problem addressed here occurs at the transmitter. If one of the >> channels [L, R] is inverted before the modulator gets it. The main FM >> channel will consist of L-R. An announcer speaking into a single mic >> that feeds both channels might as well have stayed home. *All* of his >> voice will be in the (L-R) channel that a mono receiver doesn't see. > >Yes. But with all the power in the subcarrier, that is, above 19kHz, >I think that changes the spectrum of the transmitted signal. >With 75kHz deviation and a large amount of 38kHz signal, you might >get a significant amount outside the 200kHz wide band. > >As well as I understand it, assumptions were made that, >on average, most of the power isn't that high. The only way to >know would be to read the FCC rules in detail. With highly >compressed rock music, the amplitude could be pretty high. >If, in addition, the signal had a large component close to >15kHz (maybe there are FCC rules on that, too), that makes >it even worse. > >>>> The "wrong" (incorrect phasing) way will work fine on a stereo >>>> receiver, but it will not work fine on a mono receiver. > >>> It is convenient that as (L-R) increases (L+R) decreases >>> such that the sum doesn't get too large. (Assuming L and R >>> stay in range.) The FCC Rules limit the peak frequency deviation of the FM carrier to +/- 75 kHz. It turns out that the peak modulation of the FM carrier is the larger of the left or right input signals due to an interesting and slightly non-intuitive property of the FM stereo multiplex signal called "interleaving." You can prove it by proving the equivalence of (1) generating the multiplex signal by summing L+R and double sideband suppressed-carrier amplitude-modulated L-R and (2) alternately sampling the L and R signals at the stereo subcarrier rate (38 kHz). (The proof just requires some trig identities.) Without the 19kHz pilot tone, the peak modulation produced by a pure L+R signal is the same as that produced by a pure L-R signal -- flipping the polarity of one channel does not change the peak modulation at all. The presence of the 19 kHz pilot tone, which is phase-locked to the 38 kHz subcarrier, slightly breaks the interleaving rule. It turns out that in the presence of a pilot tone at 9% modulation, a pure L+R signal modulates the FM carrier 2.7% higher than a pure L or pure R signal with the same content.
From: Jerry Avins on 10 Feb 2010 21:38 Robert Orban wrote: ... > The FCC Rules limit the peak frequency deviation of the FM carrier to +/- > 75 kHz. It turns out that the peak modulation of the FM carrier is the > larger of the left or right input signals due to an interesting and > slightly non-intuitive property of the FM stereo multiplex signal called > "interleaving." You can prove it by proving the equivalence of (1) > generating the multiplex signal by summing L+R and double sideband > suppressed-carrier amplitude-modulated L-R and (2) alternately sampling the > L and R signals at the stereo subcarrier rate (38 kHz). (The proof just > requires some trig identities.) > > > Without the 19kHz pilot tone, the peak modulation produced by a pure L+R > signal is the same as that produced by a pure L-R signal -- flipping the > polarity of one channel does not change the peak modulation at all. > > The presence of the 19 kHz pilot tone, which is phase-locked to the 38 kHz > subcarrier, slightly breaks the interleaving rule. It turns out that in the > presence of a pilot tone at 9% modulation, a pure L+R signal modulates the > FM carrier 2.7% higher than a pure L or pure R signal with the same > content. That's interesting detail that I didn't go into because it isn't related to the gist of this discussion. Briefly, a mono receiver is sensitive to the FM portion of the stereo signal, normally L + R. If that should by inadvertence be L - R, a mono signal fed to the transmitter will be lost. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
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