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From: Oleg Nesterov on 25 Mar 2010 08:20 On 03/24, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 21:45 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote: > > Nowadays ->siglock is overloaded, it would be really nice to change > > do_task_stat() to walk through the list of threads lockless. And note > > that we are doing while_each_thread() twice! > > > > while_each_thread() is rcu-safe, but thread_group_times() also needs > > ->siglock to serialize the modifications of signal_struct->prev_Xtime > > members. First of all, let me reply to myself. I see that I wasn't clear at all. This patch does the first step to remove one reason for ->siglock (modification of ->prev_Xtime). But this is very minor, I guess we could change thread_group_times() to take signal->cputimer->lock. The goal was to call thread_group_cputime() lockless under rcu lock (either directly, or via thread_group_times(), this doesn't matter) to avoid while_each_thread() under ->siglock. And in this case /proc/pid/stat can't report utime/stime atomically. Whatever we do we can race with exit, so it doesn't make sense to play with ->prev_Xtime. > Right, so from what I remember the issue is that, yes top et al rely on > that monotonicity, Really? So, do you think the change above will break user-space? How sad :/ > but more importantly I think > clock_gettime(CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID) should indeed use ->siglock to > ensure it serializes against do_exit() so that either we iterate the > thread or get the accumulated runtime from signal_struct but not both > (or neither). Oh. I forgot everything I knew about posix-cpu-timers... But, it seems, posix_cpu_clock_get() calls thread_group_cputime() under tasklist and thus can't race with exit. Oleg. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Stanislaw Gruszka on 26 Mar 2010 04:10 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:12:50PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote: > > but more importantly I think > > clock_gettime(CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID) should indeed use ->siglock to > > ensure it serializes against do_exit() so that either we iterate the > > thread or get the accumulated runtime from signal_struct but not both > > (or neither). > > Oh. I forgot everything I knew about posix-cpu-timers... But, it seems, > posix_cpu_clock_get() calls thread_group_cputime() under tasklist and > thus can't race with exit. We assure thread_group_cputime() is called with one of: tasklist_lock or ->siglock to avoid races with __exit_signal. Except oom killer and elf core-dump code where is no lock, where we assume exit is not called or we don't care of inaccurate results. Stanislaw -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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