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From: Savageduck on 26 Jul 2010 02:40 On 2010-07-25 23:14:24 -0700, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u.t.s(a)la.poste.net> said: > On 26/07/2010 07:48, Val Hallah wrote: >> >> wine in Europe is a lot cheaper > > For some value of "good" I may not agree with. In my own (French) book, > on the average, drinkable starts at 4 euros, good at 8 and very good > at 15, so, in dollars, this is about the same. Agreed. We have some drinkable wines between $4-$8, good @ $9-$20, very good $18-$30 and absolutely superb, $35-$60+, on to the astronomically silly prices. We are able to buy reasonablly priced imported fine French, German, Italian, Australian, Chilean, and South African wines at similar price points. Along with the local Californian wines in my ...er cellar, I have a few bottles of very nice Medoc, Cotes Du Rhone, Bordeaux Superieur, and Beaune, all were reasonably priced. Those, and some very good vintage port, which wasn't particularly inexpensive. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Val Hallah on 26 Jul 2010 03:01 On Jul 26, 8:40 am, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > On 2010-07-25 23:14:24 -0700, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u....(a)la.poste.net> said: > > > On 26/07/2010 07:48, Val Hallah wrote: > > >> wine in Europe is a lot cheaper > > > For some value of "good" I may not agree with. In my own (French) book, > > on the average, drinkable starts at 4 euros, good at 8 and very good > > at 15, so, in dollars, this is about the same. > > Agreed. We have some drinkable wines between $4-$8, good @ $9-$20, very > good $18-$30 and absolutely superb, $35-$60+, on to the astronomically > silly prices. We are able to buy reasonablly priced imported fine > French, German, Italian, Australian, Chilean, and South African wines > at similar price points. > > Along with the local Californian wines in my ...er cellar, I have a few > bottles of very nice Medoc, Cotes Du Rhone, Bordeaux Superieur, and > Beaune, all were reasonably priced. Those, and some very good vintage > port, which wasn't particularly inexpensive. > > -- > Regards, > > Savageduck Euro 2...and very drinkable http://www.hypercarrefour.be/Promotion2_popup.cfm?lang=NL&pdf_index=20&start=NL_20100708_61747&sImageSubPath=Hyper/NL&iPromotion2FolderID=996
From: Savageduck on 26 Jul 2010 03:17 On 2010-07-26 00:01:20 -0700, Val Hallah <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> said: > On Jul 26, 8:40�am, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >> On 2010-07-25 23:14:24 -0700, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u....(a)la.poste.net> said: >> >>> On 26/07/2010 07:48, Val Hallah wrote: >> >>>> wine in Europe is a lot cheaper >> >>> For some value of "good" I may not agree with. In my own (French) book, >>> on �the average, drinkable starts at 4 euros, good at 8 and very good >>> at 15, so, in dollars, this is about the same. >> >> Agreed. We have some drinkable wines between $4-$8, good @ $9-$20, very >> good $18-$30 and absolutely superb, $35-$60+, on to the astronomically >> silly prices. We are able to buy reasonablly priced imported fine >> French, German, Italian, Australian, Chilean, and South African wines >> at similar price points. >> >> Along with the local Californian wines in my ...er cellar, I have a few >> bottles of very nice Medoc, Cotes Du Rhone, Bordeaux Superieur, and >> Beaune, all were reasonably priced. Those, and some very good vintage >> port, which wasn't particularly inexpensive. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Savageduck > > Euro 2...and very drinkable > > http://www.hypercarrefour.be/Promotion2_popup.cfm?lang=NL&pdf_index=20& > start=NL_20100708_61747&sImageSubPath=Hyper/NL&iPromotion2FolderID=99 > 6 Oh well! Turpentine can be very drinkable. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Val Hallah on 26 Jul 2010 03:29 On Jul 26, 9:17 am, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > On 2010-07-26 00:01:20 -0700, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> said: > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 8:40 am, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-07-25 23:14:24 -0700, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u....(a)la.poste.net> said: > > >>> On 26/07/2010 07:48, Val Hallah wrote: > > >>>> wine in Europe is a lot cheaper > > >>> For some value of "good" I may not agree with. In my own (French) book, > >>> on the average, drinkable starts at 4 euros, good at 8 and very good > >>> at 15, so, in dollars, this is about the same. > > >> Agreed. We have some drinkable wines between $4-$8, good @ $9-$20, very > >> good $18-$30 and absolutely superb, $35-$60+, on to the astronomically > >> silly prices. We are able to buy reasonablly priced imported fine > >> French, German, Italian, Australian, Chilean, and South African wines > >> at similar price points. > > >> Along with the local Californian wines in my ...er cellar, I have a few > >> bottles of very nice Medoc, Cotes Du Rhone, Bordeaux Superieur, and > >> Beaune, all were reasonably priced. Those, and some very good vintage > >> port, which wasn't particularly inexpensive. > > >> -- > >> Regards, > > >> Savageduck > > > Euro 2...and very drinkable > > >http://www.hypercarrefour.be/Promotion2_popup.cfm?lang=NL&pdf_index=20& > > start=NL_20100708_61747&sImageSubPath=Hyper/NL&iPromotion2FolderID=99 > > 6 > > Oh well! > Turpentine can be very drinkable. > > -- > Regards, > > Savageduck turps costs more though....
From: Peter on 26 Jul 2010 19:18
"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2010072510572327544-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2010-07-25 10:15:14 -0700, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> said: > >> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >> news:2010072508134511272-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > >> <la migra stuff snipped> > >>> The wineries in this area run from the very big, to small acreage >>> boutique. As for keeping the cost of that bottle below $20, there are >>> some pretty good wines available for $8-$20. There are some really good >>> Californian wines in the $15-$40 range. >>> In the Paso Robles area these are my three favorite wineries. >>> < http://www.justinwine.com/wines.php > Entire cellar is superb! >>> < http://www.peachycanyon.com/ > Great Zinfandel >>> < http://www.changalawinery.com/ > Great Syrah >> >> I have not tried any of those. My personal preference is a Barolo. Though >> for every day, I enjoy Merlot or a Valpolicella Classico. To my palette, >> most domestic red wines seem to lack body. I am less picky about whites, >> so long as they don't have that acidic aftertaste. >> We have an aspiring wine industry here. There was only one local Merlot I >> liked, but the following year the winery was sold to a larger production >> house. The quality just disintegrated. A few years ago the winery tours >> were a pleasant ay of spending an afternoon and trying different wines. >> Now the wineries have turned the tours into a thriving business. > > You must be picking the wrong California reds. > > Do yourself a favor and see if you can find a Paso Robles Syrah. I suggest > the Changala, Eberle, or Justin. > > Then for other truly great California reds, if you get the opportunity, > try Justin Isosceles $60+, Justin Cabernet Sauvignon $25-$30. > If I really started testing the wines my photos would look a lot better, to me. -- Peter Never program and drink beer |