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From: Splittingfield on 27 Apr 2010 16:46 > In article > <1768273977.29136.1272361099241.JavaMail.root(a)gallium. > mathforum.org>, > Splittingfield <K(a)k.com> wrote: > > > > On 27 Apr, 09:28, Splittingfield <K...(a)k.com> > wrote: > > > > Let x be a primitive 13th root of unity over Q. > > > > Let y be a primitive 7th root of unity over Q. > > > > > > > > What is the value of [Q(x,y):Q]? > > > > > > > > I know [Q:Q(x)]=12 and [Q:Q(y)]=6, but I don't > > > think [Q(x,y):Q] = 72. > > > > > > Why do you not think that? Q[x,y] is just the > > > cyclotomic field of 91- > > > th roots of unity, and there are exactly 72 such > > > primitive roots. > > > > > > > What is the value of [Q(x,y):Q]? Is it the same > > > with Gal(Q(x,y)/Q)? If not, what is value of > > > Gal(Q(x,y)/Q)? > > > > > > > > > All cyclotomic fields are Galois extensions of Q, > > > because if you have > > > one n-th primitive root of unity in the field, > then > > > you have them all. > > > > > > Derek Holt. > > > > If gcd(x, y) =/=1, then how do I find [Q(x,y):Q] > and Gal(Q(x,y)/Q)? > > > > For instance, x is the primitive 18th root of unity > and y is the primitive > > 12th root of unity. Then [Q(x,y):Q]= eulerpi( lcm > (12, > > 18))=eulerpi(36)=12=Gal(Q(x,y)/Q)? > > I think you've got it. > > If x is a primitive m-th root and y a primitive n-th > root > then each is a p-th root where p = LCM(m, n) > so Q(x, y) is contained in Q(z) where z is a > primitive p-th root. > But also z is in Q(x, y) by elementary number theory > so Q(x, y) = Q(z). > > But you write some funny things. When you write > gcd(x, y), > you really mean gcd(order of x, order of y). When you > write > Gal(Q(x, y) / Q) = 12, you really mean the order of > Gal(Q(x, y) / Q) > is 12. You might be less confused if you wrote what > you actually > mean, instead of writing something sorta kinda like > what you mean. > > -- > Gerry Myerson (gerry(a)maths.mq.edi.ai) (i -> u for > email) Right. Thank you for your correction. |