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From: David Combs on 27 Jul 2010 01:41 In article <60rhf7xlqg.ln2(a)goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: >On 2010-06-26, John Kelly <jak(a)isp2dial.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:55:56 -0700, Keith Keller >><kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: >>> >>>A good syadmin >>>will use this feature sparingly but will still want it available if >>>needed. >> >> I've never faced a situation where I had to do it. Somehow, I find >> another way. > >I've never faced a situation where I *had* to do it, but I have on very >rare occasion faced a situation where it was much easier and more >helpful to do so. Somehow, I *almost* always find another way. The >funny thing is, I find another way even with /usr/local/bin being first >in the PATH, so that in the (again, *very* *rare*) event I can not find >another way, I still have the option to put my binary there to override >the system. > >--keith Keith -- nice post. Do you suppose you could expand your discussion a bit with some examples of where you can and cannot "find another way", and kinds of thing you do to finally accomplish the task? Annotated-examples -- would that be nice, for this IMPORTANT solution to a calamaty. Thanks! David
From: Keith Keller on 29 Jul 2010 16:40
On 2010-07-27, David Combs <dkcombs(a)panix.com> wrote: > > Keith -- nice post. Do you suppose you could expand your discussion > a bit with some examples of where you can and cannot "find another way", > and kinds of thing you do to finally accomplish the task? Unfortunately, I can't recall the specific times I've actually done it, since it's only happened a very small number of times. I can give one potential scenario, which is an extension of a situation I had a few years back. Suppose a very bad memory leak is found in /usr/bin/perl, which affects some of your own scripts, but no system scripts. Generally, the system scripts come with #!/usr/bin/perl as the shebang line. So you could modify your scripts to use #!perl, #!/usr/bin/env perl, or even explicitly #!/usr/local/bin/perl, and put your own copy of a fixed perl into /usr/local/bin. Locally, we fixed this issue by putting #!/usr/local/perl5.x.x/bin/perl into our scripts that needed it, so I ended up not overriding the system perl. But I can certainly see where some sites might prefer my above described solution. --keith -- kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information |