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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 8 Jan 2010 05:29 One thing about the coldness of winter is that I can get alot of science posts sent off. And yesterday was the first day in my life that I experienced frostbite. It happened real quickly with a blizzard wind. It happened on the cheeks of my face, around the nose and jaw. It feels like a sunburn with reddened skin. Looks like I need to buy a face-mask for just those occasions. But anyway, the definition of ellipsis that I am veering towards is that of two-dots signifies a finite string of digits where finite is defined as 10^500 or below. And for the three-dot ellipsis signifies infinite string of digits and where infinite is defined as far beyond 10^500. Now using the ellipsis let us discuss the definition of Finite that was used throughout the history of mathematics. That definition was never given or stated in Peano axioms and a pity shame it was not stated because it made mathematics inconsistent. That assumed definition of finite was that a number was finite if it ends to infinity in a string of zeroes leftwards. An example instantly illustrates this definition. The number 765 is finite because it is 0000...000765. So here we use the ellipsis to indicate an infinity of zeroes and all the digits to the left of "7" are zeroes. And the three-dot ellipsis can be used several times in a number for example, 12...233...344 indicates an infinity of 2s and an infinity of 3s for that infinite number. And the definition of ellipsis includes the idea that we have an ellipsis for a shorthand. We obviously cannot write out a infinite number of all its digits so we use a shorthand of three-dots. And for finite numbers that are long we also use this shorthand only we use two-dots. Now no mathematician ever gave a well-defined concept of Finite until Physics defines it as the largest number useable by Physics-- the Planck Units. Now let me examine why the Peano Axioms of the Natural Numbers are flawed and inconsistent and contradictory. Peano never defined Finite but assumed it meant that the number ended in a leftward string of all zeroes, as noted above for 765 example. Peano and later mathematicians all assumed the Natural Numbers as a set was an infinite set and they assumed it was infinite because you can endlessly add 1. So the endless process planted into the minds of mathematicians that the Natural Numbers formed an infinite set. But, also, Peano assumed and all later mathematicians train-locked- assumed with him that every Natural Number of the Peano Axioms was a finite number. Even though Peano never defined Finite. So, here is the contradiction, the inconsistency of the Peano Axioms. If every Natural Number was a Finite number then the set of all these Finite numbers cannot be an infinite set. So Peano and all the followers focused only on the idea that since the adding of 1 is endless that the total set of all the Natural Numbers would be endless and thus infinite. However, keep in mind, there was the other assumption that each and every Natural Number had to be a Finite Number. So to Peano and his followers this set {0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ...} was an infinite set and where every number in that set had to be a finite number. Can you see the problem, can you see the contradiction and can you see the inconsistency? Probably not. The contradiction is simply the fact that if every element or member of a set is a Finite member, then the overall set can never be infinite. In order for a set to be infinite, it must contain at least one member or element that is itself infinite. Now most people would still not grasp that idea. So I will explain it in another way. We can add piecewise two elements of a set of numbers to form a more compact set. Using the Natural Numbers {0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ...} I form the newer compact set by adding together adjacent numbers {0+1=1, 2+3=5, 4+5=9, ...} So is this newer compact set still infinite? According to Peano and his followers it is still infinite. So I continue to compactify the prior set {6, 14, ...} and according to Peano and followers that set is also infinite. But I compactify infinitely many times and what do I end up with? Well, since each and every Peano Natural Number is a finite number, what I end up with is a set that has one number and that number is a finite number. So Peano Axioms destroys the set theory arithmetic of the union of elements. So how can one correct the Peano axioms so they are consistent? It is easy. It is to define Finite with a well-defined definition such as saying all numbers less than 10^500 are finite and beyond is incognitum and far beyond is infinite. There you have a consistent Peano axioms. And the 10^500 comes out of Physics of the largest number in physics that can still carry on experimentation. And I have always thought of mathematics as a paper and pencil experiment. None of us can count to 10^500 and still be alive. And the most funny part of this story, is how long it took for anyone to notice the huge flaw of the Peano Axioms. Those axioms are about 150 years old, and one would think that no inconsistent and contradictory set of axioms could pass undetected for 150 years. One would think that as fast as I could get frostbitten in 1/2 hour time that the Peano axioms as flawed would have been realized by some astute student learning them for the first time. But I guess noone put these two together (i) every Peano Natural was finite (ii) finite was not well-defined. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |