From: Archimedes Plutonium on 8 Apr 2010 01:10 Alright, I admit the 1st attempt was botched, so maybe this 2nd attempt will gain some traction. I went into the 1st attempt with too much exuberance. Over exuberance can often by a disappointment. The exuberance I speak of is that I had two ideas to tackle the derivation out of pure math, two ideas I never used before to derive the speed of light. Those two were the idea that math and physics exist in a realm of Finiteness and that there is thus a boundary between Finite and infinite, and this boundary, I beleive is 10^500 as the Coulomb Interactions in element 109 as the largest possible Planck Unit. And the other idea is the log-spiral as representing Hyperbolic geometry and the sphere surface representing Elliptic geometry in the formula: Euclidean geom == Elliptic unioned Hyperbolic geometries. Troubles set in when, still, I could not get rid of the units, and that the speed of light as the maximum speed may not represent 10^500 but a smaller boundary such as 10^30 or in that vicinity. So let me try this attack on deriving the speed of light, 3 x 10^10 cm/ sec out of pure math, with a different approach. We know that in Euclidean geometry that pi is a constant and no matter what size of circle, its diameter multiplied by pi is the circumference. So we have: C = (pi) d That looks alot like the speed of light c = distance/time and where c is always a constant also, just as (pi) in Euclidean is always a constant. So we have two formulas that are algebraically the same: C/d = (pi) and d/t = c Now I bring into the picture the idea of Symmetry Breaking in that the speed of light must occurr as a breaking of Euclidean geometry into Elliptic and Hyperbolic and where the (pi) in either elliptic or hyperbolic are no longer a constant but a variable. So I want that Elliptic geometry be the distance in d/t = c (speed of light), and I want the time t to be Hyperbolic geometry. I want to see if the speed of light is related to 10^500 or is related to a smaller number like that of 10^28. Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
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