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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 8 Jul 2010 01:19 I apologize for being a bit of away from my thread of this 4th edition book writing. But the absence sort of rekindled my desire to nail down this derivation of the speed of light, even though I was on the missing mass chapter, my interest rekindled on the speed of light. I left off with this post: --- quoting June post --- sci.physics, sci.astro, sci.math Jun 28, 1:01 am Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:01 AM Author: plutonium.archimedes(a)gmail.com Subject: deriving speed of light out of raw pure math Chapt 19 #207; ATOM TOTALITY http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractrix Now if you look at those two figures from Wikipedia of Pseudosphere and Tractrix that I have to retrieve these numbers: 60,000 x 60,000/ 12,000 = 300,000 50,000 x 50,000 / 8,300 = 300,000 40,000 x 40,000/ 5,300 = 300,000 30,000 x 30,000/ 3,000 = 300,000 20,000 x 20,000 / 1,300 = 300,000 10,000 x 10,000 / 330 = 300,000 So what that means is I need a successive circumference of the pseudosphere poles to be 330, 1300, 3000, 5300, 8300, 12000, . . What that means is the representative pseudosphere nested inside the sphere must have its poles come popping out of the sphere and go a distance further. Now whether that distance further is where the surface area of the pseudosphere matches the surface area of the enclosing sphere is a question. I hope it does. --- end quoting June post --- That construction is reassuring because it elliptic geometry as distance and makes hyperbolic geometry as purely time linked to distance. So what I am imagining is that the pseudosphere is the time element whereas the sphere that encloses the pseudosphere inside is the distance element. And the distance is going to be for example Earth-sphere of 40,000 km strips and 40,000 of these strips. So the speed of light is the distance light travels of 40,000 km x 40,000. And the time it takes for a light wave to travel that 1,600,000,000 km is 5,300 seconds. So where do I get 5,300 from the pseudosphere nested inside the sphere? I believe the 5,300 is where the pseudosphere surface area equals the sphere surface area and thus the poles of the pseudosphere come popping out of the sphere and extend quite a distance further in order that the surface areas match. Where the surface areas match is where the circumference of each of the pseudosphere poles is 5,300/2 = 2,650. Now that is not thoroughly satisfying to me as yet because I fail to see why the circumference of these pseudosphere poles relates to the speed of light constructing the sphere itself. I vision that the speed of light is such that it constructs or builds the proton or electron or the atom by racing along these strips to form the proton or electron or atom. If the time element is the pseudosphere defect of its two poles is unsatisfying to me, because I do not like to see a "defect" as the basis for time. I would have much prefered that something else of the pseudosphere delivered the 5,300 such as the distance the line on the surface would go around completely in one revolution on the pseudosphere. So that while the speed of light is constructing the sphere surface, that the pseudosphere is how much time it takes. But of course the revolution is halted by the messy poles. However, this causes me to think that perhaps the only rightful pseudosphere to nest inside the sphere whose circumference is 40,000, is a pseudosphere that is modified so that its poles are points and thus its largest circle is that of 5,300 circumference. What I am doing is pitting the sphere against the pseudosphere, where the sphere is distance and the pseudosphere is time. And the absence from this derivation may have reinvigorated my quest. Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |