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From: Gerhard Reithofer on 19 May 2010 04:00
Hi TCLers,
why {-width != -width}?

pack [button .b -text Butn -width 10 -relief raised -bg red ]
pack [menubutton .m -text Menu -width 10 -relief raised -bg green]

These 2 commands create clearly differently sized "buttons".
Any idea how to make them look equal/similar?

% info patchlevel
8.5.8

TIA
--
Gerhard Reithofer
Tech-EDV Support Forum - http://support.tech-edv.co.at
From: Ralf Fassel on 19 May 2010 06:29
* Gerhard Reithofer <gerhard.reithofer(a)tech-edv.co.at>
| pack [button .b -text Butn -width 10 -relief raised -bg red ]
| pack [menubutton .m -text Menu -width 10 -relief raised -bg green]
|
| These 2 commands create clearly differently sized "buttons".
| Any idea how to make them look equal/similar?

Specify -padx for both (the defaults seem to be different for buttons
and menubuttons as shown bu invokinmg 'configure' on both widgets).

With -padx 0 on both I get quite similar widths (probably have to tweak
-highlightthickness).

R'
From: MSEdit on 19 May 2010 06:30
On May 19, 10:00 am, Gerhard Reithofer <gerhard.reitho...(a)tech-
edv.co.at> wrote:
> Hi TCLers,
>   why {-width != -width}?
>
> pack     [button .b -text Butn -width 10 -relief raised -bg red  ]
> pack [menubutton .m -text Menu -width 10 -relief raised -bg green]
>
> These 2 commands create clearly differently sized "buttons".
>  Any idea how to make them look equal/similar?
>
> % info patchlevel
> 8.5.8
>
> TIA
> --
>  Gerhard Reithofer
>  Tech-EDV Support Forum -http://support.tech-edv.co.at

Could this be something to do with borderwidths not padding i think
that is only for tile. The menubutton is a system thing I believe try
doing a [widget configure] and lookin at the attributes for xxxwidth.

Martyn
From: Arndt Roger Schneider on 19 May 2010 09:13
Gerhard Reithofer schrieb:

>Hi TCLers,
> why {-width != -width}?
>
>pack [button .b -text Butn -width 10 -relief raised -bg red ]
>pack [menubutton .m -text Menu -width 10 -relief raised -bg green]
>
>These 2 commands create clearly differently sized "buttons".
> Any idea how to make them look equal/similar?
>
>% info patchlevel
>8.5.8
>
>TIA
>
>
menubutton and button are different things.
The menubutton features an additional indicator signifying the
popup menu it may display, lex the menubutton must be larger
than a button.

Width is the amount of characters allotted to the caption
of those controls.

When using a proportional font, then the size of the
caption may even differ depending on the text:

button .b text Butn
button .m -text Menu

.... may have a different size.

Use the geometry manager to control the
size of a control! Never use "ipadx", "ipady", "padx" or "pady"
--except of course you really know what you're doing.

Use the *grid* manager to make the /geometry/ of controls identical
-- pack, table(blt) and place work just as-well.

--Btw. also avoid "width".

-roger
From: Gerhard Reithofer on 19 May 2010 15:58
Hi all,

On Wed, 19 May 2010, Arndt Roger Schneider wrote:

> Gerhard Reithofer schrieb:
>
> > Hi TCLers,
> > why {-width != -width}?
> >
> > pack [button .b -text Butn -width 10 -relief raised -bg red ]
> > pack [menubutton .m -text Menu -width 10 -relief raised -bg green]

....

> menubutton and button are different things.
> The menubutton features an additional indicator signifying the
> popup menu it may display, lex the menubutton must be larger
> than a button.

But without indicator it "could" be made identical.

> Width is the amount of characters allotted to the caption
> of those controls.
>
> When using a proportional font, then the size of the
> caption may even differ depending on the text:

That shouldn't happen. AFAIK a specific char (was it "W"?) is taken for
calculation a defined width. At least with the same font the result
should be identical (in same widget).

> button .b text Butn
> button .m -text Menu
>
> ... may have a different size.

Thats true, therefore I specified the "-width".

> Use the geometry manager to control the
> size of a control! Never use "ipadx", "ipady", "padx" or "pady"
> --except of course you really know what you're doing.
>
> Use the *grid* manager to make the /geometry/ of controls identical
> -- pack, table(blt) and place work just as-well.
>
> --Btw. also avoid "width".

Yes, that's easy ... if you know what todo ;-)

But also -padx 0 brings great results, so both work for me and both
solutions are not pixel-exact - which is no problem in my case.

THX *
--
Gerhard Reithofer
Tech-EDV Support Forum - http://support.tech-edv.co.at
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