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From: tytso on 6 Mar 2010 16:00 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:28:16AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 09:40 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Why are people making excuses for bad programming and bad technology? > > > > Is not bad technology is new technology, the API have to change faster , > > unless you want wait 2 years until get "stable" . > > F*ck me, but people are being dense. Nah, they're just being lazy, selfish b*stards, that's all. :-( They want the benefits of lots of testers, without wanting to be courteous to those testers. - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: tytso on 6 Mar 2010 17:40 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:52:35PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > They want the benefits of lots of testers, without wanting to be > > courteous to those testers. > > Except for the small rather important detail that the Nouveau developers > didn't ask for it to be merged in the first place. > *Someone* on the Red Hat/Fedora team made the decision to make it available on a very popular distribution to get more testing. And they did it without putting in the necessary versioning so that kernel testers could test upstream kernels. That, in my book, is an anti-social thing to do. Fedora isn't alone, of course; Ubuntu does this as well, and worse yet, with proprietary binary drivers. But just because Ubuntu does something worse, doesn't mean that Fedora should get a free pass for what they did. - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Alan Cox on 8 Mar 2010 12:30
> They want the benefits of lots of testers, without wanting to be > courteous to those testers. Except for the small rather important detail that the Nouveau developers didn't ask for it to be merged in the first place. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ |