From: Christoph Hellwig on 9 Aug 2010 17:10 Can you try with the new barrier implementation in the [PATCH, RFC] relaxed barriers by making cache flushes just that and not complicated drain barrier it should speed this case up a lot. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Andreas Dilger on 9 Aug 2010 17:20 On 2010-08-09, at 15:53, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > This patch attempts to coordinate barrier requests being sent in by fsync. Instead of each fsync call initiating its own barrier, there's now a flag to indicate if (0) no barriers are ongoing, (1) we're delaying a short time to collect other fsync threads, or (2) we're actually in-progress on a barrier. > > So, if someone calls ext4_sync_file and no barriers are in progress, the flag shifts from 0->1 and the thread delays for 500us to see if there are any other threads that are close behind in ext4_sync_file. After that wait, the state transitions to 2 and the barrier is issued. Once that's done, the state goes back to 0 and a completion is signalled. You shouldn't use a fixed delay for the thread. 500us _seems_ reasonable, if you have a single HDD. If you have an SSD, or an NVRAM-backed array, then 2000 IOPS is a serious limitation. What is done in the JBD2 code is to scale the commit sleep interval based on the average commit time. In fact, the ext4_force_commit-> ...->jbd2_journal_force_commit() call will itself be waiting in the jbd2 code to merge journal commits. It looks like we are duplicating some of this machinery in ext4_sync_file() already. It seems like a better idea to have a single piece of code to wait to merge the IOs. For the non-journal ext4 filesystems it should implement the wait for merges explicitly, otherwise it should defer the wait to jbd2. Cheers, Andreas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Darrick J. Wong on 9 Aug 2010 19:50 On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 05:19:22PM -0400, Andreas Dilger wrote: > On 2010-08-09, at 15:53, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > > This patch attempts to coordinate barrier requests being sent in by fsync. > > Instead of each fsync call initiating its own barrier, there's now a flag > > to indicate if (0) no barriers are ongoing, (1) we're delaying a short time > > to collect other fsync threads, or (2) we're actually in-progress on a > > barrier. > > > > So, if someone calls ext4_sync_file and no barriers are in progress, the > > flag shifts from 0->1 and the thread delays for 500us to see if there are > > any other threads that are close behind in ext4_sync_file. After that > > wait, the state transitions to 2 and the barrier is issued. Once that's > > done, the state goes back to 0 and a completion is signalled. > > You shouldn't use a fixed delay for the thread. 500us _seems_ reasonable, if > you have a single HDD. If you have an SSD, or an NVRAM-backed array, then > 2000 IOPS is a serious limitation. 2000 fsyncs per second, anyway. I wasn't explicitly trying to limit any other types of IO. > What is done in the JBD2 code is to scale the commit sleep interval based on > the average commit time. In fact, the ext4_force_commit-> > ...->jbd2_journal_force_commit() call will itself be waiting in the jbd2 code > to merge journal commits. It looks like we are duplicating some of this > machinery in ext4_sync_file() already. I actually picked 500us arbitrarily because it seemed to work, even for SSDs. It was a convenient test vehicle, and not much more. That said, I like your recommendation much better. I'll look into that. > It seems like a better idea to have a single piece of code to wait to merge > the IOs. For the non-journal ext4 filesystems it should implement the wait > for merges explicitly, otherwise it should defer the wait to jbd2. I wondered if this would have been better off in the block layer than ext4? Though I suppose that could imply two kinds of flush: flush-immediately, and flush-shortly. I intend to try those flush drain elimination patches before I think about this much more. --D -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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