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From: Tamas K Papp on 20 Jan 2010 09:34 Today I saw the hilarious "How a Common Lisp programmer views users of other languages" post on Luís Oliveira's blog. [1] After a good laugh, I realized that I don't know much about Factor, so I did a bit of reading. I am looking for comments on what Common Lispers [2] think about Factor. What does the concatenative paradigm offer that is different? Is it possible/worthwhile to adopt anything from that into CL, perhaps as a DSL for certain problems? Please understand that this is not flamebait, I am not trying to decide which language is "better". I just want to learn. I know that the best thing to do would be to sit down and devote a couple of months to Factor, but currently I am not in a position to do that, and thus I am just interested in what others have learned. Thanks, Tamas [1] http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html [2] And yes, I have noticed that Slava Pestov was a CL'er too.
From: vippstar on 20 Jan 2010 18:34 On Jan 20, 4:34 pm, Tamas K Papp <tkp...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Please understand that this is not flamebait... No, it couldn't even be that.
From: Tamas K Papp on 21 Jan 2010 03:42 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:34:05 -0800, vippstar wrote: > On Jan 20, 4:34 pm, Tamas K Papp <tkp...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Please understand that this is not flamebait... > > No, it couldn't even be that. Indeed. That is a pity: I have seen good discussions here about languages which are not nearly as interesting as Factor. Tamas
From: Madhu on 21 Jan 2010 04:45 * Tamas K Papp <7rqiasF9viU1(a)mid.individual.net> : Wrote on 21 Jan 2010 08:42:04 GMT: | On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:34:05 -0800, vippstar wrote: | |> On Jan 20, 4:34 pm, Tamas K Papp wrote: |>> Please understand that this is not flamebait... |> |> No, it couldn't even be that. | | Indeed. That is a pity: I have seen good discussions here about | languages which are not nearly as interesting as Gavino does this much better than you. HTH -- Madhu
From: Nicolas Neuss on 21 Jan 2010 08:06
Tamas K Papp <tkpapp(a)gmail.com> writes: > I am looking for comments on what Common Lispers [2] think about > Factor. What does the concatenative paradigm offer that is different? > Is it possible/worthwhile to adopt anything from that into CL, perhaps > as a DSL for certain problems? I probably have looked less carefully then you, but it looks as if it is the natural successor to Forth, no? Maybe a Forth-like DSL could be interesting, but I have the impression that a stack-based language like Forth lives from the fact that most (all?) functions have a fixed arity. This does not work well together with the CL way of functions having optional and keyword arguments. Nicolas |