From: Dave Searles on
Mike Schilling wrote:
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Dave Searles wrote:
>>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>>> Trails means badly-defined paths that go to obscure places and are
>>>> difficult to follow. As in 'The Java Tutorials [...] are organized
>>>> into "trails"'.
>>> I disagree with the former, and with the implied insult to Sun's
>>> Java Tutorial website.
>> [personal attack deleted]

Wrong.
From: Arved Sandstrom on
Dave Searles wrote:
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Dave Searles wrote:
>>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>>> Trails means badly-defined paths that go to obscure places and are
>>>> difficult to follow. As in 'The Java Tutorials [...] are organized
>>>> into "trails"'.
>>>
>>> I disagree with the former, and with the implied insult to Sun's Java
>>> Tutorial website.
>>
>> [personal attack deleted]
>
> Wrong.
>
> (Some people just can't tolerate disagreement!)

You're absolutely right - some people very clearly cannot.

AHS
From: Lew on
Wojtek wrote:
>>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/sql/Timestamp.html which
>>> extends Date.

Lew wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, why are you linking to out-of-date Javadocs?

Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> Try Google on:
> jdbc timestamp
> and see what show up first.

How will the popularity of old information change the fact that he linked to
out-of-date documents?

By linking to current documents,
<http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/sql/Timestamp.html>
even for classes that existed in earlier versions, one leads the querent to
better hotlinks, enhanced explanations, new interfaces implemented, generics
type parameters, and different packages and types listed in the various
frames. You deprive the querent of that enhanced hyper-navigation opportunity
or other potentially helpful information by steering them to out-of-date docs.

All your suggestion does is provide evidence that over a longer period of
time, older docs have had more time to gain ranking in a Google search. It
completely ignores the reduction in helpfulness that an obsolete link provides.

--
Lew
From: bugbear on
Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> Lew wrote :
>>>> And the standard Java API does not have a class 'SqlDate'.
>>
>> Wojtek wrote:
>>> No, but there is the JDBC Timestamp,
>>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/sql/Timestamp.html which
>>> extends Date.
>>
>> And there's java.sql.Date which is suitable for dates at day resolution.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, why are you linking to out-of-date Javadocs?
>
> Try Google on:
> jdbc timestamp
> and see what show up first.

Perhaps google is not the definitive answer to java docs, then.

BugBear
From: Arne Vajhøj on
bugbear wrote:
> Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> Lew wrote:
>>> Lew wrote :
>>>>> And the standard Java API does not have a class 'SqlDate'.
>>>
>>> Wojtek wrote:
>>>> No, but there is the JDBC Timestamp,
>>>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/sql/Timestamp.html
>>>> which extends Date.
>>>
>>> And there's java.sql.Date which is suitable for dates at day resolution.
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, why are you linking to out-of-date Javadocs?
>>
>> Try Google on:
>> jdbc timestamp
>> and see what show up first.
>
> Perhaps google is not the definitive answer to java docs, then.

Google is not perfect.

But it may still be the best around.

Arne