From: tamuheyii on 29 Nov 2009 01:51 Is there any way to do finite mixture model in SAS? I know SAS can estimate the parameters once you know the number of segments/classes there (usually example is 2), but unlike other programs, I can't find anything about identification of the number of segments/classes in the data using SAS. They usually suggest doing this with Mplus, Winbugs, etc. But I am not familiar with any of that.. Any suggestions? Thank you!
From: Arthur Tabachneck on 29 Nov 2009 09:23 Take a look at: http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471006262.html http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0503d&L=sas-l&P=27086 HTH, Art ----------- On Nov 29, 1:51 am, tamuheyii <t...(a)heyii.com> wrote: > Is there any way to do finite mixture model in SAS? I know SAS can > estimate the parameters once you know the number of segments/classes > there (usually example is 2), but unlike other programs, I can't find > anything about identification of the number of segments/classes in the > data using SAS. They usually suggest doing this with Mplus, Winbugs, > etc. But I am not familiar with any of that.. Any suggestions? Thank > you!
From: Wensui Liu on 29 Nov 2009 09:58 shouldn't we use aic / bic? it is what i understand. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Arthur Tabachneck <art297(a)netscape.net>wrote: > Take a look at: > > http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471006262.html > http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0503d&L=sas-l&P=27086 > > HTH, > Art > ----------- > On Nov 29, 1:51 am, tamuheyii <t...(a)heyii.com> wrote: > > Is there any way to do finite mixture model in SAS? I know SAS can > > estimate the parameters once you know the number of segments/classes > > there (usually example is 2), but unlike other programs, I can't find > > anything about identification of the number of segments/classes in the > > data using SAS. They usually suggest doing this with Mplus, Winbugs, > > etc. But I am not familiar with any of that.. Any suggestions? Thank > > you! > -- ============================== WenSui Liu Blog : statcompute.spaces.live.com Tough Times Never Last. But Tough People Do. - Robert Schuller ==============================
From: Dale McLerran on 29 Nov 2009 16:14 Wensui, Can you elaborate on your question a little more? Dale --------------------------------------- Dale McLerran Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center mailto: dmclerra(a)NO_SPAMfhcrc.org Ph: (206) 667-2926 Fax: (206) 667-5977 --------------------------------------- --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: > From: Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)GMAIL.COM> > Subject: Re: finite mixture model for SAS > To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 6:58 AM > shouldn't we use aic / bic? it is > what i understand. > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Arthur Tabachneck <art297(a)netscape.net>wrote: > > > Take a look at: > > > > http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471006262.html > > http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0503d&L=sas-l&P=27086 > > > > HTH, > > Art > > ----------- > > On Nov 29, 1:51 am, tamuheyii <t...(a)heyii.com> > wrote: > > > Is there any way to do finite mixture model in > SAS? I know SAS can > > > estimate the parameters once you know the number > of segments/classes > > > there (usually example is 2), but unlike other > programs, I can't find > > > anything about identification of the number of > segments/classes in the > > > data using SAS. They usually suggest doing > this with Mplus, Winbugs, > > > etc. But I am not familiar with any of that.. Any > suggestions? Thank > > > you! > > > > > > -- > ============================== > WenSui Liu > Blog : statcompute.spaces.live.com > Tough Times Never Last. But Tough People Do. - Robert > Schuller > ============================== >
From: Ajay Ohri on 29 Nov 2009 16:32 Try mclust package in r with the BIC values for a one line code on this Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2009, at 16:14, Dale McLerran <stringplayer_2(a)YAHOO.COM> wrote: Wensui, Can you elaborate on your question a little more? Dale --------------------------------------- Dale McLerran Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center mailto: dmclerra(a)NO_SPAMfhcrc.org Ph: (206) 667-2926 Fax: (206) 667-5977 --------------------------------------- --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: From: Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: finite mixture model for SAS To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 6:58 AM shouldn't we use aic / bic? it is what i understand. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Arthur Tabachneck <art297(a)netscape.net>wrote: Take a look at: http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471006262.html http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0503d&L=sas-l&P=27086 HTH, Art ----------- On Nov 29, 1:51 am, tamuheyii <t...(a)heyii.com> wrote: Is there any way to do finite mixture model in SAS? I know SAS can estimate the parameters once you know the number of segments/classes there (usually example is 2), but unlike other programs, I can't find anything about identification of the number of segments/classes in the data using SAS. They usually suggest doing this with Mplus, Winbugs, etc. But I am not familiar with any of that.. Any suggestions? Thank you! -- ============================== WenSui Liu Blog : statcompute.spaces.live.com Tough Times Never Last. But Tough People Do. - Robert Schuller ==============================
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